In 1841, Joseph Mather (farmer) and Elizabeth were at Higher Know Mill, with Abraham and Alice Settle (nee Mather) and their father Isaac (aged 80). With the absence of baptism records for this period, Its is therefore assumed Alice and Joseph are siblings.
Son Charles had left home by 1851 (missing) to live in Horwich and in 1856 James, a Goods Porter of Horwich, son of Joseph a farmer married Betty Crook, daughter of Daniel.
In 1851, Joseph, an Agricultural labourer, and Betty (52 & 49) were at Guide Post, Turton with Elizabeth (24), Sophia (22), Frances (19), Alice (16), Jane (14), John (12), Joseph (10), James (8) and Sarah Ann (5). Dorothy Cooper (16) was also with them.
In 1858, Joseph was a Publican and Farmer when daughter Alice married.
In 1861, Joseph and Betty (63 & 57) were still farming 4 acres, at Bromley Cross, Turton, and Joseph was also a beerseller. He is listed at the Railway Hotel, Bromiley Cross, Turton in Worrall's Trade Directory. At the same time, John Kay was a farmer at Mather fold and also a beer retailer at Cox green.
In 1871, Joseph and Betty (73 & 66) were farming 24 acres of land at Lower House, Turton. They had their spinster daughter Frances with them.
In 1881 Joseph died a Gentleman "formerly of Turton but late of Breightmet".