Aged >21 in 1837 when married Aged 25 in 1841 (rounded) Aged 35 in 1851, Born Little Bolton, Lancashire. Aged 45 in 1861, Born Bolton (and Elizabeth 43, Halliwell) Aged 49 in Mar 1865 when died
Born before March 1816 as aged 49 at time of death. Born after Sep 1817 as minor when marrying Ellen Buckley
Older brother Isaac was baptised at Ridgway Gates in 1810. The Bolton Library baptism records for Ridgway Gates finish at 1814, and the only other records for there which have been deposited are burials records. The only John Mather I can find a baptism for is 21 Jun 1816 at Walmsley (St. Mary, Turton) a son of Samuel Mather and Alice Greenhough Mather, which is another John Mather.
For John to be a minor (under 21) when he married Ellen, he was born after 9 Oct 1816
John Mather born 21 Jun 1816, Baptism 21 Jul 1816, son of Samuel Mather and Alice Greenhamgh is another.
John Mather died 21st March 1865, while living at 114 Chroley Street, of Chronic Hepatic disease (liver disease), and Icterus (now called jaundice) - 3 weeks. He was only aged 49 at time of death. Joseph Mather (his son), was present at the death, who was also living at 114 Chorley Street, Little Bolton.
See death certificate for further details (added Aug-2007).
The grave records dated 1873 are in the Inman/Foot family. The grave was bought originally for £2 by Elizabeth in 1865 and is in Tonge and Haulgh cemetery (at the back of where Fred Dibnah used to live) Ref - 2:F:29NC There are 3 inmates buried as follows: Burial Internment Name Age 12657 25/3/1865 John Mather 49 years 73225 15/11/1902 Ruth Inman 48 years 77741 9/1/1908 Hannah Richardson 65 years There is no tombstone but we think it is next to the grave bought by John's brother George also in 1865 when his first wife died.
The epitaph from the tombstone is matriarch Alice Mather, Samuel’s widow, is buried here as well as George and family.
The funeral service was conducted by T.W. Handford, who was daughter Sarah Alice's brother-in-law. Grave 2.F.29
Another John Mather, aged 66, of Kay Street died 27 Feb 1849
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1865 MATHER John 49 Little Bolton LB/32/112
General Notes
John and Ellen are my 2x Great Grandparents. I.e. John is my great great grandfather. John was a baptist, and probably attended Moor Street Chapel, although he later married Elizabeth Kay at Dukes Alley Chapel.
9 Oct 1837, John, a spinner, and Ellen were living in Halliwell when they married at St Mary's, Deane.
After he married Ellen, he stayed at their family home at Crook Street (1838 when Benjamin born and 1843 when wife Ellen died), although his family house was at Blackburn Street.
In 1841, John (25) was living with Ellen (20) and son Joseph (1) at Blackburn Street, Little Bolton (not with parents), working as a Cotton Spinner.
20 Sep 1843, John was living at Coopers Square, Little Bolton (on Wedding certificate). The Bolton Cronical reported John Mather of Little Bolton marrying Miss Elizabeth Kay of Halliwell.
Between 1844 and 1854, John and Elizbeth had 6 more children, all registered at Little Bolton. Elizabeth Mather registered in 1841 is another family (Joshua Mather and Elizabeth Kay) also in Little Bolton.
In 1851, John was living at 58 Chorley St., Bolton (a labourer at the Iron Works, age 35) with new wife Elizabeth (32) and son Joseph (11), Hannah (6), Samuel (4), Margaret (2) and Sarah A (8mo)
Samuel Mather confirmed as father on marriage certificate. Making a fair assumption that Isaac Mather (the only other Mather family living in Little Bolton in 1851) is a brother. Isaacs father is also known to be Samuel.
In 1856, John was a witness to younger brother George's marriage to Mary Marsh. Both could sign their names.
In 1861, John and Elizabeth (45 and 43) are at 114 Chorley Street with their children Joseph (21), Hannah (16), Samuel (14), Margaret (12), Sarah (10), John (8) and Ruth (6).
In 1864, John of 114 Chorley Street died.
Occupation Details
From before September 1837 to September 1842 John's occupation was Cotton Spinner in manufacturing at Blackburn Street.5
Occupation Notes
"Spinner" of Halliwell on 1837 Marriage Certificate, and also Banjamin (1838 at Crook Street) and Samuel's birth records (1840 at Blackburn St).
"Cotton Spinner" on 1841 census at Blackburn Street, L.B..
From before September 1842 to September 1843 his occupation was Oil Sheet Maker at Coopers Square.5
Occupation Notes
After John married Ellen he worked with his father-in-law as an Oil Cloth/Sheet maker. He was still an Oil Sheet Maker in Sep 1842 when his first wife Ellen died, and in 1843 when he married Elizabeth Kay
From after September 1843 his occupation was Shopkeeper in sales in Halliwell.6
Occupation Notes
1843 Bolton directory. The shop was probably run by Elizabeth, his wife, who he married in 1843 as her address was Halliwell (and John at Coopper's Square).
From 1851 his occupation was Labourer in manufacturing for Iron Works, in Little Bolton.7
Occupation Notes
1851 census shows John a Labourer at the Iron Works while living at 58 Chorley Street
From 1861 his occupation was Time Keeper for Bleach Works, in Little Bolton.1
Occupation Notes
Recorded as "Time Keeper" and "Bleech Works" appears to have been added later, possibly in error as at "Iron Foundary" on later records.
From before 1861 his occupation was Time Keeper in manufacturing for Iron Foundry, in Bolton. He died on March 21st, 1865 while still employed there.8
Occupation Notes
Recorded as "Time Keeper at an Iron Foundary" marriage certificates of Joseph and Ellen Tomlinson, and Samuel and Ellen Morris, and on his death certificate (both 1865)
Whereabouts
John lived at Blackburn Street for thirty years from 1811 to after 1841.9
Occupancy/Contact Notes
Happy Mather was recorded at Blackburn Street, Little Bolton in the 1811 L.B. Poor Rates Book, so presumably James had just died when Happy got recorded (as head of household). Home of John Mather, Ellen and Son Joseph in 1841.
He lived at 34 Crook Street for thirteen years from before 1838 to after 1851.99710
Occupancy/Contact Notes
Family Home of John (an Oil Sheet Maker) and Mary Buckley in 1841 and 1851
Cornelius Buckley was recorded as living here in 1838 when he married Esther Scowcroft.
John Mather recorded Crook St as his address in 1838 when his son Benjamin was born and again in 1842 when his wife Ellen (John and Mary's daughter) died.
By 1851, except for Mary, their children had left home and they had 9 lodgers and visitors to fill what must have been a big house.
He lived at Coopers Square for one year from 1842 to September 1843.5
Occupancy/Contact Notes
When John married Elizabeth, he was at Coopers Square. Elizabeth was living in Halliwell.
Home of John & Elizabeth Mather, and children: Joseph, Hannah, Samuel, Margaret and Sarah in 1851 58 Chorley St., (parish of St. George), Little Bolton, Lancashire
John Mather recorded as Shopkeeper in Halliwell in 1843 and at 58 Chorley St., LB in 1853
Jer. Hampson recorded as a Shopkeeper at 114 Chorley St. in 1835.
Home of John and Elizabeth Mather and family (Joseph, Hannah, Samuel, Margaret, Sarah, John and Ruth) in 1861 Ellen (Widdow) and remaining family (Hannah, Margaret, Sarah, John and Ruth) were still there in 1871 Ellen (Widdow) and her youngest two sons Samuel and John were still there in 1881
In 1837, Lomas Mather was witness at John and Ellen's wedding. This is the only Lomas Mather in Lancashire, or was it Lomax Mather, who may have been Happy Mather (nee Lomax), John's grandmother?
John and Ellen were married in a religious ceremony on October 9th, 1837 at St. Mary (Deane) by Curate A W H Rose and witnessed by Abraham Boardman and Lomas Mather.5
Marriage/Union Notes
Witnessed by Lomas (or Lomax) Mather and Abraham Boardman. There is only one Lomas Mather in Lancashire in 1841, and is the same age as John, possibly a brother.
Marriage: 9 Oct 1837 St Mary the Virgin, Deane, Lancashire John Mather - (X), Full, Spinner, Bachelor, Halliwell Ellen Buckley - (X), Full, Spinster, Halliwell Groom's Father: Samuel Mather, Weaver Bride's Father: John Buckley, Oil Sheet maker Witnesses: Abrm. Boardman; Lomas Mather (X) Married by Banns by A.W.H. Rose Curate Register: Marriages 1837 - 1839, Page 30, Entry 60 Source: Microfilm held by Manchester Central Library
Abraham Boardman (b.1871) was the Parish Clerk for Dean (according to 1841 census).
MATHER John BUCKLEY Ellen Bolton, St Mary the Virgin, Deane Parish Church Bolton 24/1/60
They had two sons and a daughter, named Benjamin, Joe and Sarah. There are no more children.
Family Notes
Only recorded marriage of John Mather between Sep-1837 and 1841. Married in Parish of Deane. John was recorded as a "Minor", although Ellen was "of full age"
Joseph, known as Joe, was born on February 7th, 1840 in Little Bolton.14
Birth Notes
Joseph was 71 in 1911
Two Joseph Mathers born in Bolton this year (Q1 and Q4). Lil's records show our John Mather's birth to be the first one, confirmed by Birth Cert.
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1840 BUCKLEY, Joseph BUCKLEY Little Bolton LB/4/253
MATHER, JOSEPH BUCKLEY GRO Reference: 1840 M Quarter in BOLTON UNION Volume 21 Page 111
The birth certificate (see image) is item 253 from the Little Bolton records, so clearly, the above record is the one, and it was indexed with the wrong surname (maiden name instead).
Les recalls Joseph was also known as Joe
He died due to a cardiac arrest, Dilation of the heart (left & right ventricles) and Ascites, at the age of 78 on September 6th, 1918 at 282+284 St. Ann Street. The funeral took place on September 10th, 1918 at Laird Street Baptist Church and was arranged by Messrs R Gallienne and Son, 34 Conway-street. He was buried on September 10th, 1918 at the Flaybrick Memorial Gardens.151614
Death Notes
Still alive at 1901, aged 61.
Burial Record: Folio: 507, Record 1000 Buried 10 Sept 1918, aged 78 Occupation: Iron Moulder Living at 282 St Annes Street, Birkenhead U.D. Buried in a Private Grave, Section NC6, grave 234 Ceremony performed by Ben Evans
Joseph and Ellen Mather, and Alfred James and Mary Nugent are buried together at Flaybrick Cemetary (see reference for details and picture).
See excellent reference for Birkenhead News Obituary.
Name: Joseph Mather Death Registration Month/Year: 1918 Age at death (estimated): 78 Registration district: Birkenhead Inferred County: Cheshire Volume: 8a Page: 522
Cause of death on certificate is: (1) Dilation of the heart (left & right ventricles) (2) Ascites (which is an accumulation of fluid in the peritoneal cavity) Informant was R Mather (son) of 9 Seddon St, Manchester.
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1841 MATHER Sarah A Little Bolton BUCKLEY LB/6/408
MATHER, SARAH ANN BUCKLEY GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in BOLTON UNION Volume 21 Page 106
Name: Sarah Ann Mather Year of Registration: 1841 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Bolton, Greater Manchester, Lancashire Volume: 21 Page: 106
She died as an infant at the age of 1 in March 1843 in Little Bolton.4
Death Notes
Born after 1841 census, but no record of her at 1851. Three possible deaths:
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1843 MATHER Sarah A 1 Little Bolton Bolton LB/5/491
Sarah Ann Mathed [Sarah Ann Mather] Registration Year: 1843 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Bolton, Lancashire Volume: 21 Page: 85
John and Elizabeth were married in a civil ceremony on September 20th, 1843 in Dukes Alley Chapel (NC) by minister James Fyfe and David Nimms (Registrar) and witnessed by Samuel Kay (Brother) and Mary Bromiley..5
Marriage/Union Notes
John was Widower when marrying Miss Elizabeth Kay of Halliwell.
1843: MATHER John KAY Elizabeth Bolton Register Office or Registrar Attended Bolton RO/2/99 John Mather was recorded as a Widower on the marriage certificate.
Dont confuse with another James Mather+Martha Kay family from Entwistle.
John was Widower when marrying Elizabeth Kay. This MATHER+KAY family registered the births in Lilttle Bolton. There are other MATHER & KAY family in Edgworth, West Bolton, East Bolton and Hulton.
Hannah, known as Susannah, was born on July 31st, 1844 in Little Bolton and her baptism took place there on August 2nd, 1844.13
Birth Notes
Born at Lum Street, Bolton. Registered 2-Aug-1844.
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1844 MATHER Hannah Little Bolton KAY LB/10/175
MATHER, HANNAH KAY GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in BOLTON UNION Volume 21 Page 112
She died due to a medical problem, Cellulitis of neck and toxaemia, at the age of 63 on January 6th, 1908 in Farnworth. She was buried on January 9th, 1909 at Tonge-with-Haulgh Cemetery.32
Death Notes
Died in Bolton Q1/1908 recorded as 65 (but was actually 63).
The grave records dated 1873 are in the Inman/Foot family. The grave was bought originally for £2 by Elizabeth in 1865 and is in Tonge and Haulgh cemetery (at the back of where Fred Dibnah used to live) Ref - 2:F:29NC There are 3 inmates buried as follows: 25/3/1865 John Mather 49 years 15/11/1902 Ruth Inman 48 years 9/1/1908 Hannah Richardson 65 years There is no tombstone but we think it is next to the grave bought by John's brother George also in 1865 when his first wife died.
The epitaph from the tombstone is matriarch Alice Mather, Samuel’s widow, is buried here as well as George and family.
Hannah was admitted to the workhouse (also used as a primative hospital) on 26 Dec 1908. "Richardson Hannah 65 Dead Interred by friends. Cause of death cellulitis of neck/toxaemia Spinster from the workhouse (wrong). She died just 12 days later.
MATHER, SARAH ALICE KAY GRO Reference: 1850 S Quarter in BOLTON UNION Volume 21 Page 128
Sarah was 8 months old in 1851, in Little Bolton Sarah was 10 in 1861, born Bolton Sarah Alice was 60 in 1911.
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1850 MATHER Sarah A KAY Little Bolton LB/19/225
The Sarah Ann Mather chrisened 18-Sep-1849 at Stand (daughter of another John and Elizabeth) must be another. Stand is 0.5 miles SE of Radclidde, and about 6 miles ESE of Bolton.
She died at the age of 74 on September 20th, 1924 in Leicester.21
Death Notes
At least later than 1901
Probate: HANDFORD Sarah Alice of Rawdon Leicester-road Loughborough Leicestershire widow died 20 Sep 1924 at the Hospital Loughborough. Probate Leicester 24 November to Reuben Ernest Handford (i.e. her son) Engineer and Henry Townsend D.D. Effects £774 10s 7d
The GRO has 6 John Mather births registered in Bolton in 1852 and another 7 in 1853. John is so common !
MATHER, JOHN KAY GRO Reference: 1852 D Quarter in BOLTON UNION Volume 08C Page 218
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1852 MATHER John KAY Little Bolton LB/23/197
The Birkenhead death, aged 74 is correct, which suggests he was born after Feb 1853, but that's not possible as his birth was registered in Q4 1852.
He died due to a medical problem, Cerebral Haemorrhage, at the age of 75 on February 23rd, 1928 in Birkenhead.19
Death Notes
It is reported (in both Birkenhead newspapers) that John attended Joseph Mather's funeral, so was still alive in 1918.
There is a John Mather who died in Little Bolton in 1922, aged 74 but this is another. John died at 45 Church Steet, in Tranmere, Birkenhead, 23 Fev 1824, aged 74 (actually 75). His brother Joseph had moved to Tranmere, and Joseph's son John Mather of 45 Thompson Street reported the death.
Deaths Mar 1928 (>99%) Mather John 74 Birkenhead 8a 708
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1854 MATHER Ruth KAY Little Bolton LB/27/32
MATHER, RUTH KAY GRO Reference: 1854 S Quarter in BOLTON UNION Volume 08C Page 242
Ruth Mather was born on 2 August 1854 at 58 Chorley St. Her father John was then a time keeper according to the birth certificate.
She died from a heart attack, pneumonia and and heart failure, at the age of 48 in November 1902 in Bolton. She was buried on November 15th, 1902 at Tonge-with-Haulgh Cemetery.32
Death Notes
Name: Ruth Inman Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Year of Registration: 1902 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 48 District: Bolton County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire Volume: 8c Page: 241
The grave records dated 1873 are in the Inman/Foot family. The grave was bought originally for £2 by Elizabeth Mather in 1865 and is in Tonge and Haulgh cemetery (at the back of where Fred Dibnah used to live) Ref - 2:F:29NC There are 3 inmates buried as follows: 25/3/1865 John Mather 49 years 15/11/1902 Ruth Inman 48 years 9/1/1908 Hannah Richardson 65 years There is no tombstone but we think it is next to the grave bought by John's brother George also in 1865 when his first wife died.
Ruth died in 1902, aged 48 at 16 Osborne Street from pneumonia and and heart failure. She is buried at Tonge with 2 others in the same grave.