John and Ellen were married in a religious ceremony on October 9th, 1837 at St. Mary (Deane) by Curate A W H Rose and witnessed by Abraham Boardman and Lomas Mather.1
Marriage/Union Notes
Witnessed by Lomas (or Lomax) Mather and Abraham Boardman. There is only one Lomas Mather in Lancashire in 1841, and is the same age as John, possibly a brother.
Marriage: 9 Oct 1837 St Mary the Virgin, Deane, Lancashire John Mather - (X), Full, Spinner, Bachelor, Halliwell Ellen Buckley - (X), Full, Spinster, Halliwell Groom's Father: Samuel Mather, Weaver Bride's Father: John Buckley, Oil Sheet maker Witnesses: Abrm. Boardman; Lomas Mather (X) Married by Banns by A.W.H. Rose Curate Register: Marriages 1837 - 1839, Page 30, Entry 60 Source: Microfilm held by Manchester Central Library
Abraham Boardman (b.1871) was the Parish Clerk for Dean (according to 1841 census).
MATHER John BUCKLEY Ellen Bolton, St Mary the Virgin, Deane Parish Church Bolton 24/1/60
They had two sons and a daughter, named Benjamin, Joe and Sarah. There are no more children.
Family Notes
Only recorded marriage of John Mather between Sep-1837 and 1841. Married in Parish of Deane. John was recorded as a "Minor", although Ellen was "of full age"
Aged >21 in 1837 when married Aged 25 in 1841 (rounded) Aged 35 in 1851, Born Little Bolton, Lancashire. Aged 45 in 1861, Born Bolton (and Elizabeth 43, Halliwell) Aged 49 in Mar 1865 when died
Born before March 1816 as aged 49 at time of death. Born after Sep 1817 as minor when marrying Ellen Buckley
Older brother Isaac was baptised at Ridgway Gates in 1810. The Bolton Library baptism records for Ridgway Gates finish at 1814, and the only other records for there which have been deposited are burials records. The only John Mather I can find a baptism for is 21 Jun 1816 at Walmsley (St. Mary, Turton) a son of Samuel Mather and Alice Greenhough Mather, which is another John Mather.
For John to be a minor (under 21) when he married Ellen, he was born after 9 Oct 1816
John Mather born 21 Jun 1816, Baptism 21 Jul 1816, son of Samuel Mather and Alice Greenhamgh is another.
John Mather died 21st March 1865, while living at 114 Chroley Street, of Chronic Hepatic disease (liver disease), and Icterus (now called jaundice) - 3 weeks. He was only aged 49 at time of death. Joseph Mather (his son), was present at the death, who was also living at 114 Chorley Street, Little Bolton.
See death certificate for further details (added Aug-2007).
The grave records dated 1873 are in the Inman/Foot family. The grave was bought originally for £2 by Elizabeth in 1865 and is in Tonge and Haulgh cemetery (at the back of where Fred Dibnah used to live) Ref - 2:F:29NC There are 3 inmates buried as follows: Burial Internment Name Age 12657 25/3/1865 John Mather 49 years 73225 15/11/1902 Ruth Inman 48 years 77741 9/1/1908 Hannah Richardson 65 years There is no tombstone but we think it is next to the grave bought by John's brother George also in 1865 when his first wife died.
The epitaph from the tombstone is matriarch Alice Mather, Samuel’s widow, is buried here as well as George and family.
The funeral service was conducted by T.W. Handford, who was daughter Sarah Alice's brother-in-law. Grave 2.F.29
Another John Mather, aged 66, of Kay Street died 27 Feb 1849
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1865 MATHER John 49 Little Bolton LB/32/112
Ellen was born on February 23rd, 1816 in Bolton and her baptism took place on February 23rd, 1816 at Moor Lane Baptist.67
Birth Notes
On the 1841 census, Ellen was aged 20 (which is rounded to 5 years), so was between 15 and 25 (i.e. born 1816 to 1826).
The marriage certificate of Ellen and John has Ellen of "Full Age", and John and "Minor", but the 1841 census shows John older then Ellen. However the Baptism record does suggest she was born about 1816, so of same age, so born before 9 Oct 1816 (i.e. 21 when married)
Ellen was living in Halliwell in 1837, and we only know she was born somewhere in Lancashire (probably East Bolton) from the 1841 census.
23 FEB 1816 Moor Lane Baptist-Formerly Scotch Presbyterian, Bolton Le Moors, Lancashire, England
Name: Ellen Buckley Birth Date: 23 Feb 1816 Birth Place: Bolton, Lancashire, England Event Type: Birth Father: John Buckley Mother: Mary Buckley Denomination: Baptist Piece Title: Piece 1022: Bolton, Moor Lane (Baptist formerly Scotch Presbyterian), 1793-1836
She died due to a medical problem, Fever of the Brain, at the age of 26 on September 6th, 1842 in Bolton.5
Death Notes
Died between 1841-42. Lancashire BMD has Ellen died in East Bolton, in 1842, aged 26. The others ages dont match.
Deaths Sep 1842 (>99%) MATHER Ellen Bolton 21 51
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1842 MATHER Ellen 26 Eastern Bolton EB/6/389
Death recorded in Great Bolton (Eastern Bolton). Age 26. Husband John Mather, and Oil Cloth Maker, was in attendance at Crook Street, Great Bolton. The death was recorded on 8-Sep-1842 by John Scowcroft, Registrar.
Ellen was not buried at St Peters or Tonge, so possibly at St Stephen and all Martyrs, Darcy Lever (where brother Cornelius is buried).
The Manchester times reported Ellen's death (Sat 17 Sep 1842 edition): "DIED: - On the 7th instant, aged 26 years, Mrs Ellen Mather, of Crook-street, Great Bolton".
Joseph, known as Joe, was born on February 7th, 1840 in Little Bolton.9
Birth Notes
Joseph was 71 in 1911
Two Joseph Mathers born in Bolton this year (Q1 and Q4). Lil's records show our John Mather's birth to be the first one, confirmed by Birth Cert.
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1840 BUCKLEY, Joseph BUCKLEY Little Bolton LB/4/253
MATHER, JOSEPH BUCKLEY GRO Reference: 1840 M Quarter in BOLTON UNION Volume 21 Page 111
The birth certificate (see image) is item 253 from the Little Bolton records, so clearly, the above record is the one, and it was indexed with the wrong surname (maiden name instead).
Les recalls Joseph was also known as Joe
He died due to a cardiac arrest, Dilation of the heart (left & right ventricles) and Ascites, at the age of 78 on September 6th, 1918 at 282+284 St. Ann Street. The funeral took place on September 10th, 1918 at Laird Street Baptist Church and was arranged by Messrs R Gallienne and Son, 34 Conway-street. He was buried on September 10th, 1918 at the Flaybrick Memorial Gardens.10119
Death Notes
Still alive at 1901, aged 61.
Burial Record: Folio: 507, Record 1000 Buried 10 Sept 1918, aged 78 Occupation: Iron Moulder Living at 282 St Annes Street, Birkenhead U.D. Buried in a Private Grave, Section NC6, grave 234 Ceremony performed by Ben Evans
Joseph and Ellen Mather, and Alfred James and Mary Nugent are buried together at Flaybrick Cemetary (see reference for details and picture).
See excellent reference for Birkenhead News Obituary.
Name: Joseph Mather Death Registration Month/Year: 1918 Age at death (estimated): 78 Registration district: Birkenhead Inferred County: Cheshire Volume: 8a Page: 522
Cause of death on certificate is: (1) Dilation of the heart (left & right ventricles) (2) Ascites (which is an accumulation of fluid in the peritoneal cavity) Informant was R Mather (son) of 9 Seddon St, Manchester.
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1841 MATHER Sarah A Little Bolton BUCKLEY LB/6/408
MATHER, SARAH ANN BUCKLEY GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in BOLTON UNION Volume 21 Page 106
Name: Sarah Ann Mather Year of Registration: 1841 Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec District: Bolton, Greater Manchester, Lancashire Volume: 21 Page: 106
She died as an infant at the age of 1 in March 1843 in Little Bolton.5
Death Notes
Born after 1841 census, but no record of her at 1851. Three possible deaths:
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1843 MATHER Sarah A 1 Little Bolton Bolton LB/5/491
Sarah Ann Mathed [Sarah Ann Mather] Registration Year: 1843 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Bolton, Lancashire Volume: 21 Page: 85