In 1861, John (24), a Coal Miner was living in Dirty Mile Road with his widowed mother Jane (51) and brothers Joseph, Robert, William, George (19, 17, 15 & 13) and Mary (10).
In 1881, John and Hannah (45 & 40), werre at Dirty Mile Road, between Lane End and Dobshill (near Buckley), Hawarden, Flintshire. John was a Coal Miner and Farmer of 6 acres. They had Rosannah (19), Mary J (16), Albert (13), Alice L (11), William (8), Julia (6), Annie (4) and John P (10mo).
In 1891, John (now only a coal miner) and Hannah (54 & 50) were at Lane End, with Alice L (21), William (18), Julia (16) and Annie (14)