Marguerite de Montgomery 
Marguerite de was born about 1109 in LaMarche, Normandy.1 Marguerite de's father was Roger De Montgomery and her mother was Mabel De Belleme Talvas. Her paternal grandparents were I Roger and Josseline de Pontaudemer; her maternal grandparents were William II Talvas De Belleme and Hildeburge De Beaumont. She had four brothers and two sisters, named Robert II, Roger The Poitevin, Arnulph De, Robert de, Matilda and Sibyl. She was the youngest of the seven children. She died in France.1 General Notes
[Joanne's Tree.1 GED.GED]
2 SOUR S332582
3 DATA
4 TEXT Date of Import: 14 Jan 2004
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GIVN Marguerite de
SURN Montgomery
See Historical Document.
TITL Stevens DB AUTH Jim & Luke Stevens PUBL http://www.gendex.com/users/jast/index.html#Welcome, http://pss.fit.edu:80/~stevens/descent/ Some from Jim Stevens' son, Luke Stevens, who is also a
contributor to the soc.genealogy. eval newsgroup (Luke Stevens stevens@@pss.fit.edu) Electronic
TITL Garner, Lorraine Ann "Lori" PUBL P.O. Box 577, Bayview, ID 83803 Her sources included, but may not be limited to: Burke's Landed Gentry, Burke's Dormant & Extinct Peerage, Burke's Peerage of
American Presidents, Debrett's Peerage, Oxford histories & "numerous other reference works" very good to excellent, although she has a tendency to follow Burke's Hardcopy notes of Lori Garner
Elmore. Letter
TITL Lineage & Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles, Prince of Wales AUTH Gerald Paget PUBL Skilton, Edinburgh 1977 Book PAGE Vol I p65
TITL Ancestors of Deacon Edward Converse Book PAGE p 118
TITL Ancestry of Richard Plantagenet & Cecily de Neville AUTH Ernst-Friedrich Kraentzler PUBL published by author 1978 J.H. Garner Book PAGE chart 1063
TEXT b abt 1109
TITL Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell AUTH Marlyn Lewis PUBL 08 Oct 1997 Manuscript
TEXT b abt 1109
TITL Descents from Antiquity AUTH The Augustan Society Chris Bennett (cbennett@@nospam.com) writes: The Augustan DFA charts show lines from the 17th Egyptian dynasty to the eval English kings. There
are no "proven" descents going over that period. There are two major problem with the DFA charts: (1) they don't distinguish between proven descents and hypothetical ones, giving the uninitiated
the impression that this is all proven material, and (2) there is no bibliography so you can't follow up on it [one was intended but the Augustans never got around to publishing it.] The
hypotheses used are not always the best ones -- in many cases they are very old and IMO certainly wrong -- but they are not fantasies, the ones I have identified (mostly in the earlier sections) are
always the results of someone's serious scholarship. Stewart Baldwin (sbald@@auburn.campus.mci.net) arites: There are a number of Descents from Antiquity charts floating around, and the answer to
your question depends on which line you are interested in and what you want to know about it. If you want a well documented generation-by-generation descent from antiquity, then the answer is that
none of the charts purporting to give such a descent are valid. Depending on which claim for descent from antiquity you are talking about, the assessment would generally range from plausible (but
definitely unproven) to completely absurd. Book PAGE chart X
TEXT b abt 1109
DATE 11 MAY 2000
TIME 00:00:00
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Ancestor Pedigree Chart
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*There are earlier generations for the ancestor(s) indicated. See their page(s) for details (click name)
- b.0950 in XX
- b.0990 in ST GERMAIN, MONTGOMERY, NORMANDY d.7 FEB 1055/56
- b.~ 0900
- b.~ 0925 in Normandy, France d.> 0980
- b.~ 0905
- b.0952
- b.~ 0915 in Sweden d. in XX
- b.~ 1005 in Normandy, France d.27 Jul 1094 in Shrewsbury, England
- b.~ 0904 in Normandy France d.~ 0955
- b.0928 in Normandy, France d.0960 in AKA Torfin, Seigeur de Torraille
- b.~ 0911 in Bretagne, France d.< 0940
- b.0960 in Normandy, France d.> 1040
- b.0936 in Normandy, -----------------see notes d. in living in 10th cent.
- b.~ 0932 in ancestress of Harcourt family in England, ancestors of d.~ 1000 in George Washington, President
- b.~ 0975 in Pont-Audemer, Normandy, France d.~ 1048
- b.~ 0900
- b.~ 0925 in Normandy, France d.> 0980
- b.~ 0905
- b.0948 in France
- b.~ 0915 in Sweden d. in XX
- b.~ 1109 in LaMarche, Normandy d. in France
- b.~ 0942 in Normandy, France d.~ 0997
- b.~ 0970 d.~ 1048
- b.~ 0942 in France d.> 1004
- b.0963 in Belleme, Perche, France d.~ 1031 in Domfort
- b.0970 d.~ 1031
- b.0995 in Belleme, Perche, France d.~ 1060
- b.0975
- b.1015 in Alencon, Bell, France d.02 Dec 1079 in Troarn, France
- b.0890 in of, Flanders, Belgium d.27 MAR 964 in England
- b.0933 in Flanders, France d.1 NOV 962 in Flanders - reign from 950 - 4th Count
- b.~ 0910 in Vermandois, Normandy, France d.10 OCT 958 in Bruges (Belgium)
- b.0961 in Flanders, France d.30 MAR 987 in ,Gand, Belgium
- b.0925 in Arles, Bouches-Du-Rhone, France d.19 OCT 993 in France
- b.~ 0937 in Burgundy, France d.25 May 1008 in Westerbourg
- b.0943 in Laon Champagne France d.BEF 26 NOV 991 in Arles, Burgundy, France - wife of Conrad
- b.0995 in France d.1067
- b.~ 0880 in Italy d.0932 in Italy
- b.~ 0900 in Lombardy, Italy d.6 AUG 966 in Bamburg, Germany
- b.~ 0881 in Perugia, Tuscany, Italy d.13 JUN 910 in Italy
- b.0950 in (aka Rosela/Susanna) d.26 JAN 1002/03 in Gent, Belgium
- b.~ 0904 in Italy d.0936 in (Margrave of Tuscany)
- b.~ 0930 in Arles, Tuscany d.> 0966 in Bamburg, Italy
- b.0906 in Tuscany d.0940
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They had a son named William IV de.
Family Notes
[Joanne's Tree.1 GED.GED]
[daveanthes.FTW]
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TITL Garner, Lorraine Ann "Lori"
PUBL P.O. Box 577, Bayview, ID 83803
Her sources included, but may not be limited to: Burke's Landed Gentry, Burke's Dormant & Extinct Peerage, Burke's Peerage of American Presidents, Debrett's Peerage, Oxford histories & "numerous
other reference works"
very good to excellent, although she has a tendency to follow Burke's
REPO
Hardcopy notes of Lori Garner Elmore.
CALN
MEDI Letter
TITL Ancestry of Richard Plantagenet & Cecily de Neville
AUTH Ernst-Friedrich Kraentzler
PUBL published by author 1978
REPO
J.H. Garner
CALN
MEDI Book
PAGE chart 1063
TITL Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell
AUTH Marlyn Lewis
PUBL 08 Oct 1997
REPO
CALN
MEDI Manuscript
TITL Lineage & Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles, Prince of Wales
AUTH Gerald Paget
PUBL Skilton, Edinburgh 1977
REPO
CALN
MEDI Book
PAGE Vol I p 65
TITL The Plantagenet Ancestry
AUTH W.H. Turton
PUBL Genealogical Publishing Comp, Baltimore, 1928 (reproduced 1993)
Being Tables Showing Over 7,000 of the Ancestors of Elizabeth (Daughter of Edward IV and Wife of Henry VII) The Heiress of the Plantagenets, with Preface, Lists, Notes and a Complete Index.
poor
REPO
J.H. Garner
CALN
MEDI Book
PAGE p 81
TITL Descents from Antiquity
AUTH The Augustan Society
Chris Bennett (cbennett@@nospam.com) writes: The Augustan DFA charts show lines from the 17th Egyptian dynasty to the medieval English kings. There are no "proven" descents going over that period.
There are two major problem with the DFA charts: (1) they don't distinguish between proven descents and hypothetical ones, giving the uninitiated the impression that this is all proven material,
and (2) there is no bibliography so you can't follow up on it [one was intended but the Augustans never got around to publishing it.] The hypotheses used are not always the best ones -- in many
cases they are very old and IMO certainly wrong -- but they are not fantasies, the ones I have identified (mostly in the earlier sections) are always the results of someone's serious scholarship.
Stewart Baldwin (sbald@@auburn.campus.mci.net) arites: There are a number of Descents from Antiquity charts floating around, and the answer to your question depends on which line you are interested
in and what you want to know about it. If you want a well documented generation-by-generation descent from antiquity, then the
answer is that none of the charts purporting to give such a descent are valid. Depending on which claim for descent from antiquity you are talking about, the assessment would generally range from
plausible (but definitely unproven) to completely absurd.
REPO
CALN
MEDI Book
PAGE chart X
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Children
William IV de Taillefer
William IV de was born in 1125 in ,Angouleme, Aquitaine, France.1 He died at the age of 54 on August 7th, 1179 in Messina, Sicily, Italy.1
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