William IV de Taillefer 
William IV de was born in 1125 in ,Angouleme, Aquitaine, France.1 William IV de's father was Wulgrin De Taillefer and his mother was Marguerite de Montgomery. His paternal grandparents were William De Taillefer and Vitapoy De Benauges; his maternal grandparents were Roger De Montgomery and Mabel De Belleme Talvas. He was an only child. He died at the age of 54 on August 7th, 1179 in Messina, Sicily, Italy.1 General Notes
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4 TEXT Date of Import: 14 Jan 2004
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GIVN William IV de
SURN Taillefer
NPFX Count
TITL Lineage & Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles, Prince of Wales
AUTH Gerald Paget PUBL Skilton, Edinburgh 1977
MEDI Book PAGE Vol I p 65
TITL The Plantagenet Ancestry AUTH W.H. Turton
PUBL Genealogical Publishing Comp, Baltimore, 1928 (reproduced 1993)
Being Tables Showing Over 7,000 of the Ancestors of Elizabeth (Daughter of Edward IV and Wife of Henry VII) The Heiress of the Plantagenets, with Preface, Lists, Notes and a Complete Index. ----
J.H. Garner
MEDI Book PAGE p 81
TITL Descents from Antiquity AUTH The Augustan Society
Chris Bennett (cbennett@@nospam.com) writes: The Augustan DFA charts show lines from the 17th Egyptian dynasty to the medieval English kings. There are no "proven" descents going over that period.
There are two major problem with the DFA charts: (1) they don't distinguish between proven descents and hypothetical ones, giving the uninitiated the impression that this is all proven material,
and (2) there is no bibliography so you can't follow up on it [one was intended but the Augustans never got around to publishing it.] The hypotheses used are not always the best ones -- in many
cases they are very old and IMO certainly wrong -- but they are not fantasies, the ones I have identified (mostly in the earlier sections) are always the results of someone's serious scholarship.
Stewart Baldwin (sbald@@auburn.campus.mci.net) arites: There are a number of Descents from Antiquity charts floating around, and the answer to your question depends on which line you are interested in
and what you want to know about it. If you want a well documented generation-by-generation descent from antiquity, then the answer is that none of the charts purporting to give such a descent are
valid. Depending on which claim for descent from antiquity you are talking about, the assessment would generally range from plausible (but definitely unproven) to completely absurd.
MEDI Book PAGE chart X
TITL Ancestry of Richard Plantagenet & Cecily de Neville AUTH Ernst-Friedrich Kraentzler
PUBL published by author 1978
MEDI Book PAGE chart 1063
TEXT d 07 Aug 1187, no place
TITL Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell AUTH Marlyn Lewis PUBL 08 Oct 1997
MEDI Manuscript
TEXT b abt 1134
TEXT d 07 Aug 1178
TITL Lineage & Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles, Prince of Wales AUTH Gerald Paget
PUBL Skilton, Edinburgh 1977
MEDI Book PAGE Vol I p 65
TEXT b abt 1134
TEXT d 07 Aug 1178
CAUS Died on a Crusade.
_FA1 PLAC Crusader.
DATE 6 MAY 2000
TIME 00:00:00
GIVN Guillaume X le
SURN Toulousan
_AKA Guillaume VIII the Toulousan
NSFX Count of Poitou
TITL Garner, Lorraine Ann "Lori" PUBL P.O. Box 577, Bayview, ID 83803
Her sources included, but may not be limited to: Burke's Landed Gentry, Burke's Dormant & Extinct Peerage, Burke's Peerage of American Presidents, Debrett's Peerage, Oxford histories & "numerous
other reference works"
very good to excellent, although she has a tendency to follow Burke's Hardcopy notes of Lori Garner Elmore.
MEDI Letter
TEXT William X Duke de Aquitaine Comte de Poitou
TITL Europsche Stammtafeln (Isenburg edition) AUTH Prince Wilhelm Karl von Isenburg
PUBL Verlag von J.A. Stargardt, Marburg, pub. 1975, original 1953 selected charts in possession of J.H. Garner
MEDI Book PAGE Vol 2 chart 76
TITL Royalty for Commoners AUTH Roderick W. Stuart
PUBL Genealogical Publishing Comp, Baltimore, 1993
subtitled The Complete Known Lineage of John of Gaunt, son of Edward III King of England & Queen Philippa. Reviewed in TAG, April 1994 by Dr. David H. Kelly
MEDI Book PAGE p 117
ALIA Guillaume VIII the Toulousan /Ct de Poitou/
TITL Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell AUTH Marlyn Lewis PUBL 08 Oct 1997
MEDI Manuscript
TITL Europsche Stammtafeln (Isenburg edition)
_FA1 PLAC Acceded: 1126.
_FA2 PLAC Count of Poitou.
DATE 6 MAY 2000
TIME 00:00:00
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Ancestor Pedigree Chart
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*There are earlier generations for the ancestor(s) indicated. See their page(s) for details (click name)
- b.0978 in Angouleme, Charente, France d.06 Apr 1028
- b.~ 0988 in Angouleme, Charente, France d.1048
- b.0962 in Anjou, France
- b.~ 1015 in Of, Angouleme, Charente, France d.1087
- b.~ 0973 in France XX
- b.~ 0994 in Bonteville, France d.~ 1060
- b.1084 in ,Of Angouleme, Charente, France d.16 Apr 1118 in ,,,France
- b.~ 0972 in Heismes (Hieme) d.~ 1054
- b.1028 in France d.08 Sep 1093
- b.0973 in Turqueville, Normandy, France d.1058
- b.1062 in Angoulme, France
- b.1028 d.>10 Apr 1085
- b.~ 1108 in ,Algouleme, Aquitaine, France d.16 Nov 1140 in Bouteville, France
- b.~ 1200 in Norfolk, England
- b.~ 1225 in Mundford, Norfolk, England d.~ 1262
- b.~ 1204 in Norfolk, England
- b.~ 1248 in Kingston Lisle, Berk, England d.< 1288
- b.~ 1190 in Sparsholt, Berk, England
- b.~ 1224 in Kingston Lisle, Berk, England d.< 1284
- b.~ 1192 in Berk, England
- b.1066 in Benauges, France
- b.1125 in ,Angouleme, Aquitaine, France d.07 Aug 1179 in Messina, Sicily, Italy
- b.0950 in XX
- b.0990 in ST GERMAIN, MONTGOMERY, NORMANDY d.7 FEB 1055/56
- b.~ 0925 in Normandy, France d.> 0980
- b.0952
- b.~ 0915 in Sweden d. in XX
- b.~ 1005 in Normandy, France d.27 Jul 1094 in Shrewsbury, England
- b.0928 in Normandy, France d.0960 in AKA Torfin, Seigeur de Torraille
- b.0960 in Normandy, France d.> 1040
- b.~ 0932 in ancestress of Harcourt family in England, ancestors of d.~ 1000 in George Washington, President
- b.~ 0975 in Pont-Audemer, Normandy, France d.~ 1048
- b.~ 0925 in Normandy, France d.> 0980
- b.0948 in France
- b.~ 0915 in Sweden d. in XX
- b.~ 1109 in LaMarche, Normandy d. in France
- b.~ 0970 d.~ 1048
- b.0963 in Belleme, Perche, France d.~ 1031 in Domfort
- b.0970 d.~ 1031
- b.0995 in Belleme, Perche, France d.~ 1060
- b.0975
- b.1015 in Alencon, Bell, France d.02 Dec 1079 in Troarn, France
- b.0933 in Flanders, France d.1 NOV 962 in Flanders - reign from 950 - 4th Count
- b.0961 in Flanders, France d.30 MAR 987 in ,Gand, Belgium
- b.~ 0937 in Burgundy, France d.25 May 1008 in Westerbourg
- b.0995 in France d.1067
- b.~ 0900 in Lombardy, Italy d.6 AUG 966 in Bamburg, Germany
- b.0950 in (aka Rosela/Susanna) d.26 JAN 1002/03 in Gent, Belgium
- b.~ 0930 in Arles, Tuscany d.> 0966 in Bamburg, Italy
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William IV de and Emma De were married in a religious ceremony.1 They had a son and a daughter, named Aymer De and Mathilde.
Family Notes
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TITL Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell
AUTH Marlyn Lewis
PUBL 08 Oct 1997
REPO
CALN
MEDI Manuscript
DATA
TEXT his 2nd m, date based on death of 1st wife
TITL Europsche Stammtafeln (Isenburg edition)
AUTH Prince Wilhelm Karl von Isenburg
PUBL Verlag von J.A. Stargardt, Marburg, pub. 1975, original 1953
REPO
selected charts in possession of J.H. Garner
CALN
MEDI Book
PAGE Vol II chart 76
DATA
TEXT his 2nd m, date based on death of 1st wife
_FREL Natural
_MREL Unknown
TITL Ancestry of Richard Plantagenet & Cecily de Neville
AUTH Ernst-Friedrich Kraentzler
PUBL published by author 1978
REPO
J.H. Garner
CALN
MEDI Book
PAGE chart 1063
DATA
TEXT no date
TITL Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell
AUTH Marlyn Lewis
PUBL 08 Oct 1997
REPO
CALN
MEDI Manuscript
TITL Lineage & Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles, Prince of Wales
AUTH Gerald Paget
PUBL Skilton, Edinburgh 1977
REPO
CALN
MEDI Book
PAGE Vol I p 65
_FREL Natural
_MREL Natural
_FREL Natural
_MREL Natural
_FREL Natural
_MREL Natural
_FREL Natural
_MREL Natural
_FREL Natural
_MREL Natural
_FREL Natural
_MREL Unknown
TITL Ancestry of Richard Plantagenet & Cecily de Neville
AUTH Ernst-Friedrich Kraentzler
PUBL published by author 1978
REPO
J.H. Garner
CALN
MEDI Book
PAGE chart 1063
DATA
TEXT no date
TITL Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell
AUTH Marlyn Lewis
PUBL 08 Oct 1997
REPO
CALN
MEDI Manuscript
TITL Lineage & Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles, Prince of Wales
AUTH Gerald Paget
PUBL Skilton, Edinburgh 1977
REPO
CALN
MEDI Book
PAGE Vol I p 65
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Children
Aymer De Taillefer
Aymer De was born about 1160 in Of, Angouleme, Charente Maritime, France.1 He died on June 16th, 1202 in Limogenes, France. He was buried in L'abbey La Couroun, France.1 1
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