Joseph was 71 in 1911

Two Joseph Mathers born in Bolton this year (Q1 and Q4). Lil's records show our John Mather's birth to be the first one, confirmed by Birth Cert.

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1840
BUCKLEY, Joseph    BUCKLEY    Little Bolton    LB/4/253

MATHER, JOSEPH        BUCKLEY 
GRO Reference: 1840  M Quarter in BOLTON UNION 
Volume 21  Page 111

The birth certificate (see image) is item 253 from the Little Bolton records, so clearly, the above record is the one, and it was indexed with the wrong surname (maiden name instead).

Les recalls Joseph was also known as Joe

Still alive at 1901, aged 61.

Burial Record:
Folio: 507, Record 1000
Buried 10 Sept 1918, aged 78
Occupation: Iron Moulder
Living at 282 St Annes Street, Birkenhead U.D.
Buried in a Private Grave, Section NC6, grave 234
Ceremony performed by Ben Evans

Joseph and Ellen Mather, and Alfred James and Mary Nugent are buried together at Flaybrick Cemetary (see reference for details and picture).

See excellent reference for Birkenhead News Obituary.

Name: Joseph Mather
Death Registration Month/Year: 1918
Age at death (estimated): 78
Registration district: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 8a
Page: 522

Cause of death on certificate is:
(1) Dilation of the heart (left & right ventricles)
(2) Ascites (which is an accumulation of fluid in the peritoneal cavity)
Informant was R Mather (son) of 9 Seddon St, Manchester.

Ellen was 69 in 1911

Born in Bolton about 1842 according to 1851 census.
Born 1843 according to headstone.

TOMLINSON, ELLEN        BOLTON 
GRO Reference: 1842  S Quarter in BOLTON UNION 
Volume 21  Page 79

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1842
TOMLINSON, Ellen    BOLTON    Eastern Bolton    EB/8/483

Lil Mercer had her birth recorded as "Ellen Mather nee Tomlinson  Born 23/07/1843 wife of Joseph Mather".  However, there are no freeBMD indexed death records for 1843 in Bolton (although there is one for West Derby).  She had the birthday correct, but was a year and a day out on Ellen's age.

BIRTH CERTIFICATE DETAILS:
Ellen was actullay born 24-July-1842 in Great Bolton
Registered in Eastern Bolton District
Father: Richard Tomlinson, Shopkeeper
Mother Maiden Name: Ann Bolton
Informant: Richard Tomlinson, Father, Shaw Street, GB
Registered: 30-July-1842 by John S Scowcroft, Registrar

Name:    Ellen Thomason
Baptism Date:    11 Sep 1842
Baptism Place:    Bolton-le-Moors, St Peter, Lancashire, England
Father:    Rich'd Thomason
Mother:    Anne Thomason
Reference Number:    GB127.L243/1/3/16
Occupation: Shop Keeper

Still alive in 1901, aged 58

Probably died in Tranmere, Birkenhead as buried in Flaybrick.

Died 11-May-1921 according to Lil Mercer, which looks correct.  However, internment record is for 7th May 1921.

Joseph and Ellen Mather, and Alfred James and Mary Nugent are buried together at Flaybrick Cemetary (see reference for details and picture).

Three Ann Mathers born in Bolton in 1866, one of which was Ann E.

MATHER, ANN  ELLEN      TOMLINSON 
GRO Reference: 1866  J Quarter in BOLTON 
Volume 08C  Page 362

1911 census confirms Ann Ellen Hopwood was born in Bolton and was aged 45 in April 1911

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1866
MATHER Ann E Western Bolton Bolton TOMLINSON WB/50/179

The 1939 register shows "Ann E Hopwood" born 13th Mar 66 doing unpaid domestic duties.

Still alive in 1911, aged 45

Dad remembers going to see his old Aunt Annie somewhere near Huddersfield maybe.  Her lounge had several layers of thick carpets, because each time she bought a carpet, it got laid on top of the previous.  She had her "Laying out gear" in a big cardboard box on top of the bedroom wardrobe!  This may not be the same Annie.


Deaths Sep 1929   (4y too old)
Hopwood  Ann E  67  Conway  11b 501   

Deaths Jun 1954   (perfect)
Hopwood  Ann E  88  Cleveland  1b 575

Recorded as aged 2 in 1871 in Lil Mercer's Birthday Book

MATHER, SARAH        TOMLINSON 
GRO Reference: 1869  M Quarter in BOLTON 
Volume 08C  Page 397

Lil Mercer's Birthday Book records: "Sarah Robinson nee Mather, Born 03/03/1869 wife of Thomas H Robinson", but 1901 census has Sarah J Mather, so was she Sarah Jane !

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1869
MATHER Sarah Western Bolton TOMLINSON WB/55/383

DOB 3 Mar 1869 on 1939 register

Jane Cooke reports: "I also have the death cert for Sarah Robinson nee Mather. She died on 05.06.1962. at Birch Hill Hospital, Wardle (Rochdale). Apparently it happened just as my mum and dad got together. The family was in Scotland at the time, my grandparents, Tom and Edna were living in Edinburgh where dad met mum. Mum didn't go to the funeral as she had only just got to know dad."

Death: Wardle, Littleborough, Lancaster

Born Birkenhead, Cheshire in 1873 according to 1881 census.

Les and Lil Mercer has grandfathers birthday as 8 Jan.

MATHER, JOHN        TOMLINSON 
GRO Reference: 1873  M Quarter in BIRKENHEAD 
Volume 08A  Page 510

Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1873
MATHER    John         Birkenhead    Wirral    BIR/92/19

Les confirmed that John Mather died 6 March 1950, aged 77.

Mum tells me he had heart problems and retired early.  My father thinks he would have lived longer if he'd been allowed to have a tot of whisky each evening, but his wife Sarah was a strict teetotaller and wouldn’t allow alcohol in the house.

The Mather family of Birkenhead used the Cooperative Funeral Services, but this isn't confirmed.

The Newspaper reported:
A PROMINENT LOCAL BOWLER
Mr. J. Mather dies
President for 20 years of the Birkenhead Park Bowling Club, and a past president of the West Cheshire Bowling Association, Mr John Mather of 45 Thompson Street, Birkenhead died suddenly on Monday at the age of 77.
Mr Mather who had been unwell for some time, was well known as an engineer pattern maker, and worked for many Merseyside shipping firms.
He leaves a widow, four sons and four daughters.  Cremation took place at Landican on Thursday.
The chief mourners were Mrs Sarah Mather (widow), Messrs Joseph, Albert, Jack and Walter Mather (sons) , Mrs A Bailey, Misses M. and J. Mather Mrs J. Graham (daughters), Mr H. Mather (brother), Mrs. H. Hopwood, Mrs. S. Robinson, Mrs J. Nugent and Mrs. W. Cole (sisters).

Probate:
MATHER John of 45 Thompson-street Birkenhead died 6 March 1950 Probate London 15 April to Sarah Mather widow. Efects £1958 4s.

Born 1875 according to 1801 census

Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1875
MATHER    Richard         Birkenhead    Wirral    BIR/100/53

MATHER, RICHARD        TOMLINSON 
GRO Reference: 1875  M Quarter in BIRKENHEAD 
Volume 08A  Page 500

Lil Mercers Birthday book records Richard as youngest son of Joseph Mather.

DOB Confirmed by 1939 Register

Newspaper clipping of Manchester Evening News reads:
at 34 Hemmons Road, Longsight, Dearly Loved Husband of Lilly Mather and Dear Father of Nellie, Alice, Winnie, Joe, service & committal at Manchester Crematorium on Friday, June 4th at 1pm, inquiries Mr.H.Snaden, Beswick co-op Society.
Was 0364 phone no

Probate:
MATHER Richard of 34 Hemmons Road, Manchester 12, died 31 May 1954. Probate Manchester  August to Lilly Mather widow.  Effects £1,115 8s.

Was only 2 on 1881 census

Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1878
MATHER    Mary         Birkenhead    Wirral    BIR/113/27
MATHER    Samuel         Birkenhead    Wirral    BIR/113/27

Lil Mercer's Birthday book has Mrs Nugent's birthday as 2 May, which is confirmed on the 1939 register.

MATHER, MARY        TOMLINSON 
GRO Reference: 1878  J Quarter in BIRKENHEAD 
Volume 08A  Page 526

Name: Mary Nugent
Birth Date: 2 May 1878
Death Registration Month/Year: 1971
Registration district: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 10a
Page: 151


Joseph and Ellen Mather, and Alfred James and Mary (Polly) Nugent are buried together at Flaybrick Cemetary (see reference for details and picture).  The headstone records her age as 93.

TWINS:
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1878
MATHER    Mary         Birkenhead    Wirral    BIR/113/27
MATHER    Samuel         Birkenhead    Wirral    BIR/113/27

MATHER, SAMUEL        TOMLINSON 
GRO Reference: 1878  J Quarter in BIRKENHEAD 
Volume 08A  Page 526

Cheshire Death indexes for the years: 1880
MATHER    Samuel    2    Birkenhead    Wirral    BIR/69/18

Name:    Samuel Mather
Estimated birth year:    abt 1878
Registration Year:    1880
Registration Quarter:    Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death:    2
Registration district:    Birkenhead, Cheshire
Volume:    8a
Page:    335

Recorded as 4 months on 1881 census

Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1880
MATHER    Elizabeth         Birkenhead    Wirral    BIR/123/1

MATHER, ELIZABETH        TOMLINSON 
GRO Reference: 1880  D Quarter in BIRKENHEAD 
Volume 08A  Page 450

Was thought to be a twin of Mary who died as baby.  However, was recorded 4m old, living a 304 Beckwith St., Birkenhead in 1881, so not a twin.

Had died by 1891 census

Name: Elizabeth Mather
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 5
District: Birkenhead (1861-1998)
County: Cheshire, Merseyside
Volume: 8a
Page: 337 


Burial record number 3101
Buried 6 Jan 1886, aged 5
Living at 300 Beckwith Street., Birkenhead
Buried in a Public grave, section NC 6, grave 551

Born Birkenhead, Cheshire

4 years old on 1891 census
24 on 1911 census

MATHER, ELIZABETH  ALICE      TOMLINSON 
GRO Reference: 1886  D Quarter in BIRKENHEAD 
Volume 08A  Page 485

Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1886
MATHER    Elizabeth Alice     Birkenhead, Wirral    BIR/147/70

Elizabeth A Cole on the 1939 Register confirms DOB.

Probably died in Birkenhead, but unconfirmed.