Joanna of England 
Joanna was born in of London, Middlesex, England. Joanna's father was John Lackland Plantagenet King of England and her mother was Agatha de Ferrers. Her paternal grandparents were Henry II Plantagenet de Anjou King of England and Eleanor de Aquitaine Dss de Aquitaine. She had eleven half-brothers and five half-sisters, named Oliver, Richard FitzJohn of Dover, Richard, Geoffrey, Sir John FitzJohn, Odo (Eudo), Ivo, Henry, Henry III Plantagenet, Richard of Cornwall, Osbert, Isabella, Joan, Isabella, Eleanor and Matilda. She died in Aberconwy, Arllechwedd Uchaf, Caernarvonshire, Wales.Death Notes
Chill turned into fever.
General Notes
ES III:356b credits John with two illegitimate children by Agatha de Ferrers
- Joan and Richard.
"Magna Charta Barons" by Charles H. Browning, copyright 1969 (I'm unsure of the overall reliability of this source), gives Joan's mother as Agatha de Ferrers, daughter of Robert de Ferrers, fourth Earl of Derby.
The journal "The Plantagenet Connection" has published an ahnentafel of Elizabeth Plantagenet, wife of Henry VII, which gives Joan's mother's name as Constance (Clementia) of Brittany. This is the same Constance who was married to Geoffrey Plantagenet, John's brother. Considering the well-known animosity between Constance and John and her attempts to press her own son Arthur's interests as far as the throne of England were concerned (whom John murdered with his own hands) the relationship seems unlikely. The Constance that history portrays does not seem as one who John could easily seduce or coerce into bed.
Others suggest her mother was Clemantina, the wife of Henry Pinel.
Penman, Sharon Kay. "Here Be Dragons". New York: Ballatine Books, June
1993.
Penman, Sharon Kay. "Falls The Shaow". New York: Ballatine Books, May
1989.
Lewis, Marlyn (compiler for "The Plantagenet Connection"). "Ahnentafel for
Elizabeth Plantagenet (Wife of Henry Tudor): Generations 1-15". Arvada, CO:
Heliotrope Communications, 1996.
Wurts, John C. "Magna Charta". Copyright 1945.
Browning, Charles H. "Magna Charta Barons". Copyright 1969.
Adams, Arthur and Frederick Weis. "Magna Charta Sureties". Copyright 1955.
Sir J. E. Lloyd's "History of Wales", Vol.II
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ES III:356b credits John with two illegitimate children by Agatha de Ferrers
- Joan and Richard.
"Magna Charta Barons" by Charles H. Browning, copyright 1969 (I'm unsure of the overall reliability of this source), gives Joan's mother as Agatha de Ferrers, daughter of Robert de Ferrers, fourth Earl of Derby.
The journal "The Plantagenet Connection" has published an ahnentafel of Elizabeth Plantagenet, wife of Henry VII, which gives Joan's mother's name as Constance (Clementia) of Brittany. This is the same Constance who was married to Geoffrey Plantagenet, John's brother. Considering the well-known animosity between Constance and John and her attempts to press her own son Arthur's interests as far as the throne of England were concerned (whom John murdered with his own hands) the relationship seems unlikely. The Constance that history portrays does not seem as one who John could easily seduce or coerce into bed.
Others suggest her mother was Clemantina, the wife of Henry Pinel.
Penman, Sharon Kay. "Here Be Dragons". New York: Ballatine Books, June
1993.
Penman, Sharon Kay. "Falls The Shaow". New York: Ballatine Books, May
1989.
Lewis, Marlyn (compiler for "The Plantagenet Connection"). "Ahnentafel for
Elizabeth Plantagenet (Wife of Henry Tudor): Generations 1-15". Arvada, CO:
Heliotrope Communications, 1996.
Wurts, John C. "Magna Charta". Copyright 1945.
Browning, Charles H. "Magna Charta Barons". Copyright 1969.
Adams, Arthur and Frederick Weis. "Magna Charta Sureties". Copyright 1955.
Sir J. E. Lloyd's "History of Wales", Vol.II
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Ancestor Pedigree Chart
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*There are earlier generations for the ancestor(s) indicated. See their page(s) for details (click name)
- b.1043 in Anjou, France d.14 Apr 1106 in Anjou, Normandy, France
- b.1092 in of, Anjou, France d.10 Nov 1143 in Jerusalem, Holy Land
- b.1059 in Montfort l' Amauri, Isle de France, France d.14 FEB 1116/17 in Fontrevault, France
- b.24 Aug 1113 in ANJOU, France d.07 Sep 1151 in Chateau, Eure-Et-Loir, France
- b.1060 d.11 Jul 1110
- b.1096 in Maine, France d.1126 in Maine, France
- b.1055 in of Chateau, Eure-et-Loire, France d.1099
- b.25 Mar 1133 in Le Mans, Sarthe, France d.06 Jul 1189 in Chinon, Indre-et-Loire, France
- b.1028 in King of England d.10 Sep 1087 in Hermentruvilleby, Rouen, Seine-Maritime, France
- b.1116 in Selby, Yorkshire, England d.01 Dec 1135 in Westminster, Middlesex, England
- b.1032 in Flanders, France d.02 Nov 1083 in Caen, Calvados, Normandy
- b.1104 d.1167
- b.~ 1033 in of Atholl, Pertshire, Scotland d.13 Nov 1093 in Alnwick, Northumbrland, Eng.
- b.Oct 1079 in Scotland d.01 May 1118 in Winchester, Eng.
- b.1045 in Hungary d.16 Nov 1093 in Edinburgh Castle, Scotland
- b.24 Dec 1166 in Beaumont Palace, Oxford, England d.19 Oct 1216 in Newark Castle, Lincolnshire
- b.~ 1024 in Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou, France d.25 Sep 1086 in Aquitaine, France
- b.22 Oct 1071 in Aquitaine, France d.10 FEB 1126/27 in Poitiers, Vienne, Poitou, France
- b.~ 1044 in Bourgogne, France d.> 1104
- b.1099 in Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, Midi-Pyrenees, France d.09 Apr 1137 in Santiago de Compostela, Spain
- b.~ 1040 in Huesca, Spain d.1093 in Holy Land, Palestine
- b.~ 1073 in Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, Midi-Pyrenees, France d.28 Nov 1117
- b.~ 1066 in Mortagne-au-Perche, Orne, Normandy, France d.> 1080 in Huesca, Spain
- b.1123 in Chateau de Belin, Gironde, Aquitaine d.01 Apr 1204 in Mirabell Castle, Fontevrault, Anjou, France
- b.1050 in Chatellerault, Vienne, Poitou, France d.1092 in Chatellerault, Vienne, Poitou, France
- b.1075 in Chatellerault, Vienne, Poitou, France d.07 Nov 1151 in As monk at Notre Dame de Noyers
- b.1054 in Thouars, Anjou, France
- b.~ 1105 in Chatellerault, Vienne, Poitou, France d.AFT MAR 1130/31
- b.1049 in Isle Bouchard, France
- b.1079 in Isle Bouchard, France
- b.1053 in Isle Bouchard, France
- b.BET. 1188 - 1191 in of London, Middlesex, England d.2 FEB 1236/37 in Aberconwy, Arllechwedd Uchaf, Caernarvonshire, Wales
- b.1168 in of Charltey, Staffordshire, England
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Joanna and Llywelyn Fawr ap Iorwerth were married in a religious ceremony in 1205 in St. Werburgh Benedictine Abbey, Chester, Chestershire. They had two sons and three daughters, named Tegwared-y-Bais Wen, Dafydd ap Llywelyn Fawr, Angharad, Elen (Helena) and Marared Drwyndon.
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Children
Death Notes
Fever & bleeding after giving birth; child died also.
Tegwared-y-Bais Wen ap Llywelyn Fawr
Tegwared-y-Bais Wen was born in May 1205. He died about April 1235.
Elen (Helena) verch Llywelyn Fawr of Wales
Elen (Helena) was born on November 1st, 1207 in Gwynedd, Wales. She died at the age of 45 on October 24th, 1253 in Stevington, England.
Dafydd ap Llywelyn Fawr Prince of Gwynedd
Dafydd ap Llywelyn Fawr was born in November 1208 in Gwynedd, Wales. He died in Aberconwy, Arllechwedd Uchaf, Caernarvonshire, Wales.
Joanna and William "Black Will" de Braose were married in a religious ceremony about October 1228.
Family Notes
One interesting story from Joan and Llywelyn's marriage: about 1230/1231,
Llywelyn returned home unexpectedly to find Joan alone in their bedroom with
William de Braose. This story is recounted in "Here Be Dragons" and one
other "purely historical" source. William was later hanged on Llywelyn's order.
From "The Genealogist" article by Wm. Addams Reitwiesner: He was discovered in Joan's chambers, accused of being her lover, and promptly
and publicly hanged. While the story that William and Joan were lovers has
been generally accepted, the Annals of Margam (in T. Gale, ed , Historiae
Britannicae et Anglicanae Scriptores XX (Oxford, 1687), 2-18, [anno] MCCXXX)
implies that the "intimacy" was devised by Llywelyn to avenge himself on
William for political injuries inflicted not only by William but by the entire
Braose family; the execution was hailed by the Welsh as a vindication of a
blood-feud against the Braoses dating from at least 1176. Indeed, shortly
after the execution Llywelyn wrote to William's widow Eva and to William
Marshal, Earl of Pembroke, Eva's brother, stating, in effect, that so far as
he was concerned, the intended marriage between Llywelyn's son Dafydd and
Eva's daughter Isabella could go forward as planned, and that he could not
have prevented the Welsh magnates from taking their vengeance. See J. Goronwy Edwards, Calendar of Ancient Correspondence concerning Wales (Board of Celtic Studies of the University of Wales, History and Law Series, 2)(Cardiff, 1935), pp 51-52, nos. XI.56a, 56b. The marriage in fact took place three months later.[Custer February 1, 2002 Family Tree.FTW]
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One interesting story from Joan and Llywelyn's marriage: about 1230/1231,
Llywelyn returned home unexpectedly to find Joan alone in their bedroom with
William de Braose. This story is recounted in "Here Be Dragons" and one
other "purely historical" source. William was later hanged on Llywelyn's order.
From "The Genealogist" article by Wm. Addams Reitwiesner: He was discovered in Joan's chambers, accused of being her lover, and promptly
and publicly hanged. While the story that William and Joan were lovers has
been generally accepted, the Annals of Margam (in T. Gale, ed , Historiae
Britannicae et Anglicanae Scriptores XX (Oxford, 1687), 2-18, [anno] MCCXXX)
implies that the "intimacy" was devised by Llywelyn to avenge himself on
William for political injuries inflicted not only by William but by the entire
Braose family; the execution was hailed by the Welsh as a vindication of a
blood-feud against the Braoses dating from at least 1176. Indeed, shortly
after the execution Llywelyn wrote to William's widow Eva and to William
Marshal, Earl of Pembroke, Eva's brother, stating, in effect, that so far as
he was concerned, the intended marriage between Llywelyn's son Dafydd and
Eva's daughter Isabella could go forward as planned, and that he could not
have prevented the Welsh magnates from taking their vengeance. See J. Goronwy Edwards, Calendar of Ancient Correspondence concerning Wales (Board of Celtic Studies of the University of Wales, History and Law Series, 2)(Cardiff, 1935), pp 51-52, nos. XI.56a, 56b. The marriage in fact took place three months later.
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