Joan FitzWilliam 
Joan was born about 1305 in Tattershall, Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England. Joan's father was William FitzWilliam , of Emley & Sprotborough,Sir and her mother was Isabel (Maude) Deincourt. Her paternal grandparents were William FitzWilliam , of Sprotborough ,Sir Knight and Agnes de Grey; her maternal grandparents were Edmund 1st Baron Deincourt , 8th Lord D'Eyncourt and Isabel de Mohun. She had two brothers named John and Thomas. She was the youngest of the three children.General Notes
There are two places for Joan in the FitzWilliam & Sothill/Soothill families, both have her daughter of William FitzWilliam and wife of Henry Sothill/Soothill. The visitation pedigree plus the fact that William & Isabel Deincourt are known to have a daughter Joan indicate that particular position in the families; while chronological studies by John Ravilious (plus her apparent attachment to Tattershall) indicate a much later placement. I have put her in both places, extending the Sothill/Soothill line down to Henry, b. c 1385, in order to indicate the alternative place. Supposedly Joan only occurs in one or the other postitions--not both.
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The following post to SGM, 9 Nov 2002, by John Ravilious gives a whole new pedigree for the Henry Sothill/Soothill who m. Joan FitzWilliam and indicates that Joan was born far later (3 generations) than earlier thought:
From: John Ravilious (therav3@@aol.com)
Subject: Re: Soothill of Soothill, co. Yorks., Redbourn, co. Lincs. & C - Pt I
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2002-11-09 20:03:24 PST
It can be reasonably inferred, given the above cited records and the Visitation pedigrees, that Joan FitzWilliam was married to Henry de Soothill - the problem was 'merely', which Henry de Soothill? The problem was not the proper placement of Joan in the FitzWilliam pedigree, but that of Henry de Soothill in the Soothill/Sothill pedigree. I would submit the following is most likely the correct arrangement (numbered references are to the Soothill pedigree from the first post in this thread):
[Chart showing Joan FitzWilliam as daughter of William FitzWilliam & Maud Cromwell m. Henry de Soothill, d. aft 1410, son of Sir Henry , d. ca. 1375 & Denise, son of Sir Henry, d. 1363.6 & Joan, son of Sir Henry, d. ca. 1352.]
This placement is some 4 generations later than the Visitation pedigree reflects. It is certainly more palatable from a chronological point of view; unfortunately, a FitzWilliam descent (and a Plantagenet connection via Hamelin, Earl of Surrey) are lost to the descendants of Sir Gerard Soothill of Redbourn (1. 1. 2. 1. 3. above).
Any comment or criticism of the above is welcome, as are certainly any other details as to any known issue (esp. a daughter Joan) of William FitzWilliam and Maud Cromwell outside the Visitation record.
Good luck, and good hunting.
John
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The following post to SGM, 30 Dec 2001, by Douglas Richardson, indicates the older theory about Joan, according to the visitation, which may be superseded by the above post by John Ravilious.
From: Douglas Richardson (royalancestry@@msn.com)
Subject: Re: Sothill Chronology, a rehash with Markenfield
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2001-12-30 10:46:23 PST
Various visitation pedigrees show Joan Fitzwilliam, wife of Henry Sothill (or Soothill), to be the daughter of Sir William Fitzwilliam. Given the chronology involved, it would appear she is the daughter of Sir William Fitzwilliam, of Sprotborough, co. York, died c. 1342, by his wife, Isabel Deincourt. This couple definitely had a daughter named Joan, as indicated by Isabel (Deincourt) Fitzwilliam's will. Below please find my accounts of Sir William Fitzwilliam and of Henry and Joan (Fitzwilliam) Sothill, which are taken from the forthcoming book, Plantagenet Ancestry, 3rd edition. My sources are fully cited.
I trust this information has been helpful.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
E-mail: royalancestry@@msn.com
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Ancestor Pedigree Chart
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*There are earlier generations for the ancestor(s) indicated. See their page(s) for details (click name)
- b.~ 1140 in Hopton, Emley, Yorkshire, England d.< 1194 in Sprotbrough, Doncaster, Yorkshire, England
- b.> 1173 in Sprotbrough, Doncaster, Yorkshire, England d.AFT 9 FEB 1218/19
- b.~ 1130 in Sprotbrough, Doncaster, Yorkshire, England d.> 1193 in Halton Castle, Skipton, Yorkshire, England
- b.~ 1195 in Sprotbrough, Doncaster, Yorkshire, England d.> 1252 in Emley, Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
- b.1130 in Normandy, France d.07 May 1202 in Lewes, Sussex, England
- b.~ 1170 in Lewes, Sussex, England d.~ 1220
- b.1137 in Lewes, Sussex, England d.13 Jul 1199 in Lewes, Sussex, England
- b.~ 1232 in Emley, Wakefield, Yorkshire, England d.< 1294 in Sprotbrough, Doncaster, Yorkshire, England
- b.~ 1157 in Mitford Castle, Morpeth, Northumberland, England d.1199
- b.~ 1180 in Mitford Castle, Morpeth, Northumberland, England d.< 1242
- b.~ 1161 in Prudhoe, Hexham, Northumberland, England
- b.~ 1212 in Mitford Castle, Morpeth, Northumberland, England
- b.~ 1195 in England d.>20 Aug 1253
- b.~ 1270 in Emley, Wakefield, Yorkshire, England d.< 1342 in Sprotbrough, Doncaster, Yorkshire, England
- b.~ 1150 in Thurrock Grey, Essex, England d.> 1198 in Standlake, Witney, Oxfordshire, England
- b.1176 in Thurrock Grey, Essex, England d.1219 in Codnor, Derbyshire, England
- b.~ 1154 in Tunbridge Castle, Kent, England
- b.~ 1198 in Codnor, Derbyshire, England d.<08 Sep 1271
- b.~ 1140 in Great Carlton, Lincolnshire, England d.~ 1176 in of Waddington, Riseholm, & Scothern, Lincolnshire, England
- b.~ 1176 in Great Carlton, Lincolnshire, England d.18 Jun 1246 in Codnor, Derbyshire, England
- b.~ 1140 in Thorngate Castle, Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England
- b.~ 1233 in Codnor, Derbyshire, England
- b.~ 1135 in Le Hommet, St Lo, Normandy, France
- b.~ 1165 in Sheringham, Norfolk, England d.> 1207
- b.~ 1135 in Normandy, France
- b.~ 1198 in Sheringham, Norfolk, England d.> 1282
- b.~ 1305 in Tattershall, Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England
- b.~ 1162 in Blankney, Lincolnshire, England d.< 1201
- b.~ 1196 in Blankney, Lincolnshire, England d.<19 Sep 1246
- b.~ 1165 in England
- b.~ 1226 in Blankney, Lincolnshire, England d.<14 Oct 1257
- b.~ 1140 in Lilbourne Castle, Creek, Northamptonshire, England d.1214 in Lilbourne Castle, Creek, Northamptonshire, England
- b.~ 1198 in Brattleby, Lincolnshire, England
- b.~ 1150 in Brattleby, Lincolnshire, England d.1230
- b.~ 1248 in Blankney, Lincolnshire, England d.6 JAN 1326/27
- b.~ 1170 in Raby Castle, Durham, England d.<26 May 1248
- b.~ 1190 in Raby Castle, Durham, England d.<29 Sep 1242
- b.~ 1175 in Burreth, Lincolnshire, England d.May 1254
- b.~ 1221 in Raby Castle, Durham, England d.<20 Jul 1293
- b.~ 1187 in England
- b.~ 1270 in Blankney, Lincolnshire, England d.<29 May 1348 in Emley, Wakefield, Yorkshire, England
- b.< 1156 in Dunster, Williton, Somerset, England d.Oct 1193 in Enroute to Jerusalem, Palestine
- b.< 1183 in Dunster, Williton, Somerset, England d.1213
- b.~ 1165 in Cambridgeshire, England d.> 1201
- b.~ 1206 in Dunster, Williton, Somerset, England d.20 JAN 1257/58 in Torre Mohun, Devonshire, England
- b.~ 1145 in Little Bytham, Lincolnshire, England d.1226 in Little Somborne, Hampshire, England
- b.~ 1187 in Torre, Devonshire, England d.> 1233
- b.~ 1160 in Gilsland, Irthington, Cumberland, England d.24 MAR 1216/17 in Stoke, Devonshire, England
- b.~ 1248 in Dunster, Williton, Somerset, England d.<26 Nov 1280
- b.1172 in Ferrers, Derbyshire, England d.22 Sep 1247
- b.~ 1193 in Derby, Derbyshire, England d.<28 Mar 1254 in Evington, Leicestershire, England
- b.~ 1174 in Chester, Cheshire, England d.02 Nov 1247
- b.~ 1220 in Derby, Derbyshire, England d.<26 Nov 1260 in Torre Mohun, Devonshire, England
- b.1146 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales d.14 May 1219 in Caversham Manor, England
- b.~ 1191 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales d.< 1238
- b.~ 1172 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales d.1220 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales
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They had a son named Henry.
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Children
Henry Sothill , Sir Knight
Henry was born about 1338 in Soothill, West RIde Yorkshire, England. He died after May 29th, 1369.
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