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  !FGRA; "THE GENEALOGIST" V.1 #1 SAYS BORN BEF 1197
  ! UA #37-318
  Lord Of Abergavenn
  See Historical Document.
  
  TITL Garner, Lorraine Ann "Lori"PUBL P.O. Box 577, Bayview, ID  83803Her sources included, bu t may not be limited to: Burke's Landed Gentry, Burke's Dormant & Extinct Peerage, Burke's Pe erage of American Presidents, Debrett's Peerage, Oxford histories & "numerous other referenc e works"very good to excellent, although she has a tendency to follow Burke'sREPOHardcopy not es of Lori Garner Elmore.CALNMEDI LetterDATATEXT No mention of "Black Will" nickname
  TITL Here Be DragonsAUTH Sharon Kay PenmanPUBL Ballantine Books, New York 1985 Library of J.H . GarnerCALNMEDI BookTITL University of Hull Royal Database (England)AUTH Brian Tompsett, Dep t of Computer SciencePUBL copyright 1994, 1995, 1996usually reliable but sometimes includes h ypothetical lines, mythological figures, etcREPOWWW, University of Hull, Hull, UK HU6 7RX  bc t@@tardis.ed.ac.ukCALNMEDI ElectronicDATATEXT No mention of nicknameTITL Mann DatabaseAUTH E d MannContributor on soc.genealogy.medievalREPOedmann@@commnections.comCALNMEDI ElectronicTIT L Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell AUTH Marlyn LewisPUBL 08 Oct 1997REPOCALNMEDI ManuscriptTIT L Some Early English PedigreesAUTH Vernon M. NorrREPOCALNMEDI BookPAGE p 35TITL Ancestors o f Deacon Edward ConverseREPOCALNMEDI BookPAGE p 39ALIA William de Braose V /Baron Abergavenny /TITL Here Be DragonsAUTH Sharon Kay Penman PUBL Ballantine Books, New York 1985REPOLibrary o f J.H. GarnerCALNMEDI Book
  TEXT b 1196TITL Mann DatabaseAUTH Ed MannContributor on soc.genealogy.medievalREPOedmann@@comm nections.comCALNMEDI Electronic
  TEXT b 1204, no placeTITL Ahnentafel for Margery ArundellAUTH Marlyn Lewis PUBL 08 Oct 1997RE POCALNMEDI ManuscriptDATATEXT b abt 1204TITL Some Early English PedigreesAUTH Vernon M. NorrR EPOCALNMEDI BookPAGE p 35
  TEXT b abt 1204TITL Garner, Lorraine Ann "Lori"PUBL P.O. Box 577, Bayview, ID  83803Her sourc es included, but may not be limited to: Burke's Landed Gentry, Burke's Dormant & Extinct Peer age, Burke's Peerage of American Presidents, Debrett's Peerage, Oxford histories & "numerou s other reference works"very good to excellent, although she has a tendency to follow Burke's REPOHardcopy notes of Lori Garner Elmore.CALNMEDI LetterDATATEXT d 1230TITL Mann DatabaseAUT H Ed MannContributor on soc.genealogy.medievalREPOedmann@@commnections.comCALNMEDI ElectronicD ATATEXT no placeTITL Ahnentafel for Margery ArundellAUTH Marlyn LewisPUBL 08 Oct 1997REPOCALN MEDI Manuscript
  TITL Some Early English PedigreesAUTH Vernon M. NorrREPOCALNMEDI Book PAGE p 35TITL Magna Cha rta Sureties, 1215AUTH Frederick Lewis WeisPUBL 4th ed, Genealogical Publishing, BaltimoreREP OJ.H. GarnerCALNMEDI BookPAGE p 152 line 146DATATEXT no placeCAUS Executed (hung) by his fath er's father-in-law,  Llywelyn Fawr ap Iorwerth._FA1PLAC Acceded: Brecknock, Abergavenny.  6t h Baron de Braose.TITL University of Hull Royal Database (England)AUTH Brian Tompsett, Dept o f Computer SciencePUBL copyright 1994, 1995, 1996usually reliable but sometimes includes hypo thetical lines, mythological figures, etcREPOWWW, University of Hull, Hull, UK HU6 7RX  bct@@t ardis.ed.ac.uk MEDI ElectronicTITL Ahnentafel for Margery ArundellAUTH Marlyn LewisPUBL 08 Oc t 1997REPOCALNMEDI ManuscriptDATATEXT 6th Baron de Braose, Lord BrecknockTITL Magna Charta Su reties, 1215AUTH Frederick Lewis WeisPUBL 4th ed, Genealogical Publishing, BaltimoreREPOJ.H . GarnerCALNMEDI BookPAGE p 152 line 146DATATEXT 6th Baron de Braose, Lord of Abergavenny
  _FA2 PLAC Executed by his father's father-in-law, Llywelyn Fawr ap Iorwerth.TITL Here Be Drag onsAUTH Sharon Kay PenmanPUBL Ballantine Books, New York 1985 Library of J.H. GarnerCALNMED I BookTITL University of Hull Royal Database (England)AUTH Brian Tompsett, Dept of Computer S ciencePUBL copyright 1994, 1995, 1996usually reliable but sometimes includes hypothetical lin es, mythological figures, etcREPOWWW, University of Hull, Hull, UK HU6 7RX  bct@@tardis.ed.ac. ukCALNMEDI Electronic_FA3PLAC Executed because he had an affair with Llywelyn's wife, Joan, d /o King John.TITL Here Be DragonsAUTH Sharon Kay PenmanPUBL Ballantine Books, New York 1985RE POLibrary of J.H. Garner MEDI Book_FA4PLAC Known as a cuckolder of husbands throughout Wales. TITL Here Be DragonsAUTH Sharon Kay PenmanPUBL Ballantine Books, New York 1985REPOLibrary o f J.H. GarnerCALNMEDI Book_FA5PLAC Arrogant rogue, lack of ethics, but expedient.SOUR Sharo n Kay Penman "Here be Dragons"_FA6PLAC Idolized his grandfather Wm. de Braose at expense of h is father.SOUR Sharon Kay Penman "Here be Dragons"_FA7PLAC Nickname "Black Will" a result o f his extra marital activities.TITL Here Be DragonsAUTH Sharon Kay PenmanPUBL Ballantine Book s, New York 1985REPOLibrary of J.H. GarnerCALNMEDI BookWeis' Ancestral Roots Shows Gracia d e Briwere as his mother; however, if Gwladus Ddu "the Dark Eyed" verch Llewelyn, his father' s 2nd wife, was his mother (his maternal parentage is debated), then he was executed by his o wn grandfather, Llywelyn Fawr ap Iorwerth Prince of Wales.  SRCES:Weis/Sheppard Magna Carta S uretiesWeis/Sheppard Ancestral Roots, 7th Ed.Complete PeerageDict. Nat. Biog.Visit. Shropshir e (St.Peter pedigree)Bromfield's NorfolkPedigrees from Plea Rollsa series of articles on Brao se in vol 4-6 of The Genealogist (the old one)Bartrum's Welsh Pedigrees lists him as son of G racia.

Details of William Black Will de's family with Eve (Eva) MARSHALL

Details of William Black Will de's family with Joanna of England