Ermengarde de Macon 
Ermengarde de was born about 0972 in Macon, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France.1 Ermengarde de's father was Alberic II Count of Macon , & Salins and her mother was Countess Of Macon Ermentrude. Her paternal grandfather was Letalde (Lietaud) I Count of Macon and her paternal grandmother is of Burgundy Richilde; her maternal grandparents were Renaud Count of Rheims and Roucy and Alberade of Lorraine. She had two sisters named Miss and Beatrix de. She was the oldest of the three children. She had a half-brother and three half-sisters, named I, Count of Burgundy, Mathilde (Maud) of, Gerberge Countess of and Agnes deMacon of. She died after 1035.1 General Notes
Note: AR has Herbert III de Vermandois as her 2nd husband, but the notedFrench genealogist Settipani has Herbert as her 1st husband and Milo IVas her 2nd. The sourced dates seem to work better following AR (whichis why I am leaving them alone); however, if Settipani is correct (and heis an expert), then Herbert III would have died before 992 (Settipani hasErmengarde's son by Milo, Renaud b. abt 993), and Herbert & Ermengarde'sson Otto would have been born before 992/3 instead of about 1000.
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This is an excerpt from a post to SGM (full post is in notes underErmengarde de Tonnerre), 5 Dec 1998, by Settipani, the noted Frenchgenealogist:
The Ascendancy of Ermengarde of Tonnerre : Part II
The family of Ermengardis (no 5), widow of Herbert, not the reverse, isnot « Bar-sur-Seine » (one misunderstanding hypothesis of E. Petit: sucha dynasty does not exist at this time). She was, I think, the daughter ofAlberic II of Macon and his second wife.
Maloney, Hendrick & Others - J. H. Maloney
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Ancestor Pedigree Chart
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*There are earlier generations for the ancestor(s) indicated. See their page(s) for details (click name)
- d.15 Jun 0911 in prob. Narbonne,France
- b. in prob. Narbonne,France d.~ 0945 in prob. Narbonne,France
- d.<Jun 0911 in prob. Narbonne,France
- b.~ 0910 in Macon, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France d.0971 in Macon, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France
- d.> 0915
- b.~ 0949 in Macon, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France d.~ 0980 in Salins, Seine-et-Marne, Ile-de-France, France
- b.~ 0915 in Auxerre, Yonne, Bourgogne, France
- b.~ 0972 in Macon, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France d.> 1035
- b.~ 0845 in Orleans, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France d.0888 in St Martin, Tours, Indre-et-Loire, Touraine/Centre, France
- b.~ 0875 in Anjou/Pays-de-la-Loire, France
- b.~ 0854 in Gatinais, Loiret, Orleanais/Centre, France
- b.< 0901 in Anjou/Pays-de-la-Loire, France d.> 0941 in Soissons, Aisne, Picardy, France (slain in battle)
- b.~ 0925 in Roucy, Marne, Champagne, France d.15 Mar 0972/0973 in Reims, Marne, Champagne, France
- b.BET 958 AND 959 in Reims, Marne, Champagne, France d.5 Mar 1002/1003 in Burgundy,France
- b.~ 0830 in Maasgau, Meuse Valley, Austrasia now Belgium d.0863
- b.~ 0850 in Alsace-Lorraine,France d.0916 in Mons,Hainault,Belgium
- b.~ 0830 in Alsace-Lorraine,France
- b.~ 0900 in France d.02 Oct 0939 in Rhine River, near Andernach, Prussia
- b.WFT Est. 831-902 in Frankfort on Main d.06 Oct 0877 in Mt. Cenis in the Alps
- b.0865 in Paris,Ile-de-France,France d.WFT Est. 894-958 in Alsace-Lorraine,France
- b.WFT Est. 800-825 in Orleans,Loiret,France d.WFT Est. 847-914 in Paris,Ile-de-France,France
- b.~ 0935 in Hainault, France d.WFT Est. 973-1030 in Roucy,Aisne,France
- b.0910 in Nordhausen,Saxony,Prussia d.05 May 0984 in Reims,Marne,France
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Ermengarde de were married in a religious ceremony in 1st husband.
1 Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com @ Ed Mann, 15 Jun 1998
Further source/citation:
Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com @ Settipani, 5 Dec 1998
Further source/citation:
Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com @ Settipani, 5 Dec 1998
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