Walter , of Heron Hall, Sir TYRREL 
Walter , of Heron Hall, Sir was born about 1320 in Heron Hall,East Horndon,Essex,England.1 Walter , of Heron Hall, Sir's father was James , of Buttsbury, Sir Knight TYRREL and his mother was Margaret HERON. His paternal grandparents were Hugh , of Avon Tyrell, Sir TYRRELL and Jane FLAMBERT; his maternal grandfather was William HERON. He was an only child.General Notes
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The pedigree I am following is found in a posting by John Stuart to soc.genealogy.medieval. It shows the "classic" descent of the Tyrell family of Heron Hall, Essex from Walter Tyrell, the alleged assassin of William II, which is found in a book "A Genealogical History of the Tyrrells" by Joseph Henry Tyrrell (JHT). There are many problems with the pedigree (in fact, according to John Stuart, JHT presents three variations in his book, but the one presented here is based on visitations.) John Stuart presents a critique with suggested alternatives based on a book "The Tyrells of England" by Dr. O. F. Brown (OFB). I am leaving my ancestry according to JHT, even though it has obvious problems, until the pedigree questions are resolved.
The following is excerpted from the posting:
Generation 10 (JHT)
"Sir Walter of Heron, son of James and Margaret
Married Anna, daughter of Sir William Swynford"
[OFB does show at least one Walter as being a descendant of the James Tyrell of 1305 and Margaret Heron, but several generations later as either the brother or son of Thomas Tyrell 'the younger.' OFB refers to the analysis of G.A. Moriarty in NEHGR, Jan 1955 as being a "scholarly and objective assessment" which, among other things, displaces Walter in the 'traditional' pedigree. OFB does not fully agree with all of Moriarty's suggestions, but does concur that there is no primary record of a Walter, son of James of 1305 and Margaret Heron. OFB does not show a Anna Swynford, but does indicate that at about the time of the Walter Tyrell who married Eleanor Flambard (see below), the arms of Swinford were picked up by the Tyrells. Sir John, the probable son of that later Walter married a second time to a Catherine of unknown family. OFB speculates that this Catherine might have been the source of either the Swinford arms or the Borgate arms previously mentioned.][jweberTYRR.ged]
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Ancestor Pedigree Chart
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*There are earlier generations for the ancestor(s) indicated. See their page(s) for details (click name)
- b.~ 1204 in Avon Tyrell,New Forest,Hampshire,England
- b.~ 1233 in Avon Tyrell,New Forest,Hampshire,England
- b.~ 1260 in Avon Tyrell,New Forest,Hampshire,England
- b.~ 1288 in Avon Tyrell,New Forest,Hampshire,England d.> 1377 in Carisbrooke Castle,Isle of Wight,Hampshire,England
- b.~ 1195 in Suffolk,England
- b.~ 1235 in Suffolk,England
- b.~ 1205 in England
- b.~ 1264 in Suffolk,England
- b.~ 1304 in Buttsbury,Chelmsford,Essex,England d.> 1380
- b.~ 1262 in Essex,England
- b.~ 1288 in Essex,England d.1330
- b.~ 1320 in Heron Hall,East Horndon,Essex,England
- b.~ 1200 in Heron Hall,East Horndon,Essex,England
- b.~ 1233 in Heron Hall,East Horndon,Essex,England
- b.~ 1265 in Heron Hall,East Horndon,Essex,England
- b.~ 1290 in Heron Hall,East Horndon,Essex,England
- b.~ 1305 in Heron Hall,East Horndon,Essex,England
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They had a son named Walter (Thomas) , of Heron Hall, Sir.
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Children
Walter (Thomas) , of Heron Hall, Sir TYRREL
Walter (Thomas) , of Heron Hall, Sir was born about 1348 in Heron Hall,East Horndon,Essex,England.1 He died in 1406 in Heron Hall,East Horndon,Essex,England.1
They had a son and a daughter, named Walter (Thomas) , of Heron Hall, Sir and Tyrell.
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Children
Walter (Thomas) , of Heron Hall, Sir TYRREL
Walter (Thomas) , of Heron Hall, Sir was born about 1348 in Heron Hall,East Horndon,Essex,England.1 He died in 1406 in Heron Hall,East Horndon,Essex,England.1
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Further sources/citations:
Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com @ John Stuart, 2 July 1999, {jweber2.ged}, Ancestral File (TM), Ancestral File (TM)
Further sources/citations:
Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com @ John Stuart, 2 July 1999, {jweber2.ged}, Ancestral File (TM), Ancestral File (TM)
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