Countess, Ida

Birth Name Countess, Ida 1a
Gramps ID I25377
Gender female

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father De TOENI, Lord Of Flamstead, Hertford, Roger III [I26121]about 11041162
Mother of Hainault, Ida [I7768]after 1162
         Countess, Ida [I25377]

Families

    Family of PLANTAGENET, King Of England, Henry II Curt and Countess, Ida [F10836]
Unknown Partner PLANTAGENET, King Of England, Henry II Curt [I21824] ( * 1132/3-03-05 (Julian) + 1189-07-08 )
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
LONGSPEE, Earl Of Salisbury, William [I25403]before 11731225/6-03-07 (Julian)
    Family of BIGOD, Earl Of Norfolk, MC Surety, Roger and Countess, Ida [F11324]
Married Husband BIGOD, Earl Of Norfolk, MC Surety, Roger [I25376] ( * about 1150 + 1221 )
   
Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Marriage [E32243] before 1190    
1b
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
BIGOD, Earl Of Norfolk, MC Surety, Hugh [I25289]before 1195FEB 1224/25

Narrative

[MARSHALL.FTW]

SOURCE NOTES:
Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great
Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant. Gloucester: A
Sutton, 1982.

Farmerie, Todd A, Weis Ancestral Roots 7th Edition Corrections, posting to
mailing list GEN-MEDIEVAL, Aug 1 1995. Author address taf@@po.cwru.edu.

Farmerie, Todd A, posting to mailing list GEN-MEDIEVAL, Feb 6 1997. Author
address taf@@po.cwru.edu.

Holloway, Naomi D, The Genealogy of Mary Wentworth, Who Became the Wife of
William Brewster, Revised Edition, October 1969. LDS Film#1738313 item#5

Reed, Paul, Identity of Countess Ida revisited, posting to GEN-MEDIEVAL, Jan 6
2000. Author address reedpcgen@@aol.com.

Watney, Vernon James, The Wallop Family and their Ancestry, Oxford:John
Johnson, 1928. LDS Film#1696491 items 6-9.

Weis, Frederick L, Magna Charta Sureties 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
Charta and Some of Their Descendants. 4th Ed. Baltimore: Gen Pub Co, 1991.
RESEARCH NOTES:
possibly Countess of Boulogne [Ref: Farmerie 8/1/95]

referred to twice by William Longspee as "Countess Ida"; only Ida in England
who fit was wife of Roger Bigod Earl of Norfolk [Ref: Paul Reed 1/6/00]
SOURCE NOTES:
parents: tentative [Ref: Paul Reed 1/6/00]
RESEARCH NOTES:
parents: Hamelin Plantagenet & Isabelle de Warenne [Ref: Watney #1026]
possibly Matthew of Alsace & Mary [Ref: Farmerie 8/1/95], father: Hamelin
Plantagenet [Ref: Watney #109], note: not likely that Ida (wife of Hugh BIGOD)
was dau of Hamelin Plantagenet if same as Ida (mother of William Longspee by
Henry II). That would make her mistress to her uncle. see message by taf
under William Longspee [Ref: Farmerie 2/6/97]

Attributes

Type Value Notes Sources
AFN 83XC-PH
 

Pedigree

  1. De TOENI, Lord Of Flamstead, Hertford, Roger III [I26121]
    1. of Hainault, Ida [I7768]
      1. Countess, Ida
        1. PLANTAGENET, King Of England, Henry II Curt [I21824]
          1. LONGSPEE, Earl Of Salisbury, William [I25403]
        2. BIGOD, Earl Of Norfolk, MC Surety, Roger [I25376]
          1. BIGOD, Earl Of Norfolk, MC Surety, Hugh [I25289]

Ancestors

Source References

  1. MARSHALL.FTW [S346124]
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        Date of Import: Oct 31, 2000

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        Date of Import: Oct 31, 2000