, Aupals

Birth Name Aupals 1a 1b
Gramps ID I22368
Gender female

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father Emperor Of The West, Louis I The Fair [I22035]778-08-00840-06-20
Mother , Ermengarde [I22036]about 818-10-03
    Sister     , Mathilda [I22034]
         , Aupals [I22368]
    Brother     King Of Italy, Emperor Of The West, Lothair I [I22091] 795 855-09-29

Families

    Family of Count Of Paris, Begue and , Aupals [F9769]
Unknown Partner Count Of Paris, Begue [I22367] ( * + 816 )
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
Of Paris, Engeltron [I22366]
Count Of Paris, Eberhard [I23064]
Count Of Paris, Leutand [I23065]

Narrative

[MARSHALL.FTW]

SOURCE NOTES:
Borthwick, Richard, Aupais, posting to GEN-MEDIEVAL May 29, 1998. Author
address rgbor@@cyllene.uwa.edu.au.

Moriarty, George Andrews, Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III And Queen
Philippa. Salt Lake: Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, 1985. LDS
Film#0441438. nypl#ARF-86-2555.

Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Euroopaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte
der europaischen Staaten, New Series, Marburg: J.A. Stargardt, 1978-.

Weis, Frederick Lewis, Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, 6th Edition,
Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1988.
RESEARCH NOTES:
became Abbess of St. Peters, Rheims [Ref: Moriarty p22]

she is ften called a natural daughter of the Emperor Louis the Pious, but
other authorities style her as a natural daughter of Charlemagne, which
is undoubtedly, for chronological reasons, correct. [Ref: Moriarty p23]

There are two positions on Alpais' origins and largely they depend on how one
interprets the following passage from the Monor Lorsch Annals (Codex
Fuldensis) for 816 (MGH SS 1): "Picco, primis de amicis regis, qui et filiam
imperatoris [*] duxit [duxerat] uxorem, defunctus est." The Hildesheim Annals
repeat this but insert at [*] the words "nomine Elpheid". A fairly literal
translation is: "Bego/Biggo, first amongst the kings friends, who [had] also
married the emperor's daughter [by name Elpheid], died." The question is
whether '... imperatoris ...' refers to the 816 emperor (i.e. the current one,
Louis the Pious) or to the previous one (Charlemagne).
Flodoard in his history of the church of Reims says that Alpais was the
daughter of Louis. But Flodoard (writing very much later, in the c10th) would
appear to be using the Lorsch/Hildesheim annals, making the reference of
'..imperatoris..' to be Louis the Pious who was indeed emperor in 816. This
does not settle the matter since Flodoard (who is usually very reliable) may
have made a not unreasonable but nevertheless wrong identification. Count
Bego (before his brief time as count of Paris) had a career in southern France
during Louis the Pious' time as king of Aquitaine. Since Bego married while
Charlemagne reigned (but probably before he bacame emperor in 800) the
reference of 'regis' in the Lorsch Annals quoted aboe is thus to Louis as king
of Aquitaine and 'imperatoris' is to Charlemagne. Whether Alpais is the
daughter of Charlemagne or of his son thus turns on how one critically
interprets Flodoard. [Ref: Richard Borthwick 5/29/1998]
SOURCE NOTES:
parents: [Ref: ES I #2]
RESEARCH NOTES:
father: Charlemagne [Ref: Moriarty p22, Weis AR #191]

Attributes

Type Value Notes Sources
AFN ES:I-2, AR:191-14s
 

Pedigree

  1. Emperor Of The West, Louis I The Fair [I22035]
    1. , Ermengarde [I22036]
      1. , Mathilda [I22034]
      2. , Aupals
        1. Count Of Paris, Begue [I22367]
          1. Of Paris, Engeltron [I22366]
          2. Count Of Paris, Eberhard [I23064]
          3. Count Of Paris, Leutand [I23065]
      3. King Of Italy, Emperor Of The West, Lothair I [I22091]

Ancestors

Source References

  1. MARSHALL.FTW [S346124]
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        Date of Import: Oct 30, 2000

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        Date of Import: Oct 31, 2000