I know that this James was in the Kilcavan area at the right time to be Anne and Batt's child, but other than the naming pattern fits perfectly, I have no other reason to put him there. ALL the Kennys in the early days DID follow the naming pattern very closely. There is no reason that they would not have a james as the first child. I know that Batts fathere was James, so therefore, his first son would be James. -------------------------- On Ancestry, I found a record of a James of Ranalgh??, son of Bartholomew and Ann Brien of Rathfarnham/Dublin , who married Catherin Kearnes, daughter of Lawrence kearnes and Margaret Toowig, in July 22 1860. . John O'Neil had found tomacorck records that a james Kenny married Biddy Green. Not sureif this is the correct James with similar named parents. NOTE, I never fully documented that my bartholomew and Anne Breen had a child, James, other that in the naming pattern, their first born male would typically be james. If this is them, It would be my first document staing the exisistance of James as a child to Batt and Ann breen. I placed the actualy marriage doc in James ancestry.com file,