Roger Poitevin de Montgomerie 
Roger Poitevin de was born in 1054 in of Montgomery, Montgomeryshire, Wales.1 Roger Poitevin de's father was Roger II de Montgomerie and his mother was Mabel de Alenon. His paternal grandparents were Hugh de Montgomerie and Josceline de Pont-Audemer; his maternal grandparents were William II Talvas and Hildeburg de Alenon. He had four brothers and five sisters, named Robert de, Hugh de, Philip de, Arnulf de, Amicia de, Matilda de, Sybil de, Emma de and Mabel de. He was the fifth oldest of the ten children. He died at the age of 69 in 1123 in Charroux, France. He was buried in Abbey of Gastain.1 1 General Notes
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TITL Stevens DB AUTH Jim & Luke Stevens
PUBL http://www.gendex.com/users/jast/index.html#Welcome, http://pss.fit.edu:80/~stevens/desc ent/
Some data from Jim Stevens' son, Luke Stevens, who is also a contributor to the soc.genealogy .medieval newsgroup (Luke Stevens stevens@@pss.fit.edu) MEDI Electronic
TEXT Roger de Montgomery E. of Arundel & Shrewsbury
TITL Garner, Lorraine Ann "Lori"
PUBL P.O. Box 577, Bayview, ID 83803
Her sources included, but may not be limited to: Burke's Landed Gentry, Burke's Dormant & Ext inct Peerage, Burke's Peerage of American Presidents, Debrett's Peerage, Oxford histories & " numerous other reference works"
very good to excellent, although she has a tendency to follow Burke's Hardcopy notes of Lor i Garner Elmore.
MEDI Letter
TITL Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell AUTH Marlyn Lewis PUBL 08 Oct 1997 MEDI Manus cript
TEXT Roger de Montgomerie Lord Lancaster, no other titles
TITL Lineage & Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles, Prince of Wales AUTH Gerald Paget
PUBL Skilton, Edinburgh 1977 MEDI Book PAGE Vol I p 65
TEXT Roger de Montgomerie Lord Lancaster, no other titles
TITL Europsche Stammtafeln (Isenburg edition) AUTH Prince Wilhelm Karl von Isenburg
PUBL Verlag von J.A. Stargardt, Marburg, pub. 1975, original 1953 selected charts in posses sion of J.H. Garner
MEDI Book PAGE Vol III chart 637
ALIA Roger de Montgomery III /Earl of Shrewsbury/
TITL Descents from Antiquity AUTH The Augustan Society
Chris Bennett (cbennett@@nospam.com) writes: The Augustan DFA charts show lines from the 17t h Egyptian dynasty to the medieval English kings. There are no "proven" descents going ove r that period. There are two major problem with the DFA charts: (1) they don't distinguis h between proven descents and hypothetical ones, giving the uninitiated the impression tha t this is all proven material, and (2) there is no bibliography so you can't follow up on i t [one was intended but the Augustans never got around to publishing it.] The hypotheses us ed are not always the best ones -- in many cases they are very old and IMO certainly wrong - - but they are not fantasies, the ones I have identified (mostly in the earlier sections) ar e always the results of someone's serious scholarship.
Stewart Baldwin (sbald@@auburn.campus.mci.net) arites: There are a number of Descents from An tiquity charts floating around, and the answer to your question depends on which line you ar e interested in and what you want to know about it. If you want a well documented generation -by-generation descent from antiquity, then the answer is that none of the charts purportin g to give such a descent are valid. Depending on which claim for descent from antiquity yo u are talking about, the assessment would generally range from plausible (but definitely unpr oven) to completely absurd.
MEDI Book PAGE chart X
_FA1 PLAC Lord Lancaster. Buried at Abbey of Gastain.
_FA2 PLAC Vicomte d' Exemes.
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Ancestor Pedigree Chart
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- b.~ 0975 d.BEF. 7 FEB 1054/55 in Paris, France
- b.~ 1005 in Of, Normandy, France d.27 Jul 1094 in Shrewsbury Abbey, Shropshire, England
- b.~ 0920 in ,Normandy, France
- b.~ 0949 in Of Pontaudemer, Normandy, France
- b.~ 0905 in Of, Normandy, France
- b.~ 0920 in Of, Normandy, France
- b.~ 0908 in of Normandy, France
- b.~ 0975 in of Ponteaudemer, Normandy d.> 1068
- b.~ 0906 in Of Normandy, France d.> 0984
- b.~ 0942 in Pont-Audemer, Eure, France
- b.~ 0916 in Of, Normandy, France
- b.1054 in of Montgomery, Montgomeryshire, Wales d.1123 in Charroux, France
- b.~ 0912
- b.~ 0942 in Of, Normandy, France d.< 1005
- b.~ 0912
- b.0963 in Of, Belleme, Perche, France d.~ 1048
- b.~ 0942 in Of, Normandy, France d.< 1005
- b.0995 in Of, Belleme, Perche, France d.1048
- b.~ 0940 in Of, France
- b.~ 0970 in Of, France
- b.~ 1015 in Alencon, Bell, France d.02 Dec 1079 in Chateau de Bures-sur-Dives, France
- b.~ 0955
- b.0995 d.~ 1067
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