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  TITL Agamov, Alexander excellent for Russian/Kievan/Tatars   contributor to soc.genealogy. e val, commeng@@usa.net    Electronic
  TEXT Jaroslav I The Wise
  TITL University of Hull Royal  base (England) AUTH Brian Tompsett, Dept of Computer Scienc e PUBL copyright 1994, 1995, 1996 usually reliable but sometimes includes hypothetical lines , mythological figures, etc   WWW, University of Hull, Hull, UK HU6 7RX  bct@@tardis.ed.ac.u k    Electronic
  TITL Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell AUTH Marlyn Lewis PUBL 08 Oct 1997      Manuscript
  TEXT Grand Duke of Kiev
  TITL LDS Ancestral File AUTH Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints      Church Record P AGE 3.04
  TITL Agamov, Alexander excellent for Russian/Kievan/Tatars   contributor to soc.genealogy. e val, commeng@@usa.net    Electronic
  TEXT b 989
  TITL University of Hull Royal  base (England) AUTH Brian Tompsett, Dept of Computer Science P UBL copyright 1994, 1995, 1996 usually reliable but sometimes includes hypothetical lines, my thological figures,etc   WWW, University of Hull, Hull, UK HU6 7RX  bct@@tardis.ed.ac.uk    El ectronic
  TEXT b 978
  TITL Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell AUTHMarlyn Lewis PUBL 08 Oct 1997      Manuscript   TEX T b 978 TITL Agamov, Alexander excellent for Russian/Kievan/Tatars   contributor to soc.genea logy. eval, commeng@@usa.net    Electronic
  TEXT d 1054, no place
  TITL Aiken, Tom   contributor to soc.genealogy. eval CALN   Electronic
  TEXT no place  TITL Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell AUTH Marlyn Lewis PUBL 08 Oct 1997      M anuscript  TITL LDS Ancestral File AUTH Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints      Chur ch Record PAGE 3.04
  _FA1 PLAC Acceded: 1019.
  _FA2 PLAC AKA the Great Duke of Russia and the Prince of Holmgarth.
  _FA3 PLAC Grand Duke of Kiev, Grand Prince of Novgorod & Kiev.
  TITL Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell AUTH Marlyn Lewis PUBL 08 Oct 1997      ManuscriptBurk e calls him Great Duke of Russia. Snorri Sturlasson call him Prince of Holmgarth and shows hi s children as Holti-Nimble, Vissivald, Ellisif. Donald Lines Jacobus (1883-1970), the "Founde r of Scientific Genealogy in America" wrote an article in The American Genealogist (TAG) 9:13 -15 en TITLed "The House of Rurik."  I quote:  "To correct the many errors that have appeare d in print, and to aid those who follow the pastime of tracing "royal ancestry," the followin g condensed account of the early Rurikides is here printed.  It is based in large part on "Ge nealogies et Mariages Occidentaux des Rurikides Russes du Xe au XIIIe Siecle," published at R ome in 1927 as Vol. IX, No. 1, of *Orientalia Christiana.* The author, N. de Baumgarten, is p robably the best living authority on early Russian history, and every statement made on the f ourteen genealogical tables of his monograph is fully supported by the citation of contempora ry documents and chronicles." I am not attacking Jacobus, who is a giant among genealogists a nd certainly needs no defenders.  Neither am I disagreeing with Alexander Agamov, in Moscow , who has pointed out that there is no credible evidence that Rurik was ever "Prince of Kiev " and progenitor of the line beginning with Igor, Grand Prince of Kiev, who married Olga. I h ope Alexander Agamov is reading this.  Some historians and genealogists,Russians in particula r, have taken sharp issue with the theory that the Kievan Rus was founded by a "Dane" rathe r than a "Slav"----and the evidence for "The Varangian Theory" seems fragmentary and inconclu sive, at best. G. Andrews Moriarty and Walter L. Sheppard in TAG 28:91-95 also quote the N. d e Baumgarten material as authoritative [specifically "Orientalia Christiana, No. 119, N. de B aumgarten, "Aux Origines de la Russie," p. 79.  Both Jacobus and Moriarty/Sheppard headline t heir charts with "Rurik (d. 879) Grand Prince of Kiev."  Jacobus probably did not read 10th t o 13th century Russian. But--- some of us may. For anyone who might conceivably have access t o the original, 1927, N. de Baumgarten source---is it provable that, "every statement made o n the fourteen genealogical tables of his monograph is fully supported by the citation of con temporary documents and chronicles?" Or, is it possible that Jacobus and the other experts si mply trusted in N. de Baumgarten's scholarship and professionalism---and didnot really chec k out the facts themselves. The Editor of a journal, such as TAG, certainly cannot check ou t every fact and document himself. But, in this particular case, Jacobus gives the N. de Baum garten material his personal imprimatur, as cited above [TAG 9:13, Paragraph 2] So----has N . de Baumgarten in his "Orientalia Christiana"---dealing with "The House of Rurik"---been tot ally discredited by subsequent rigorous scholarship---or does his judgment still seem credibl e to some serious scholars----or are there alternate explanations? This is an intriguing ques tion of interest to many folks who are descended from Anne of  Kiev (c. 1024-c.1066) [Anna Ya roslavna] who married Henry I, King of France.

Details of Jaroslav I of Kiev's family with Ingigerd (Anna) Olafsdottir