• General Notes

  Sir John de Grey, KG; summoned to Parliament 1 April 1335 - 23 Nov 1392 but again with no proof of his sitting; campaigned Scotland, Flanders and France, present at Crecy and Siege of Calais 1346-47; Keeper of Rochester Castle 1359. [Burke's Peerage].
  
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  GREY (of Codnor)
  BARONY BY WRIT.
  III. 1335.
  3. Sir John de Grey, Lord Grey (of Codnor), s. and h. [of Sir Richard de Grey & Joan FitzPayn],(m125) had livery (after homage) of his father’s lands 26 Mar. 1335, saving to Joan, late wife of Richard, her dower.(n125) He was sum. to Parl. from 1 Apr. (1355) 9 Edw. III to 23 Nov. (1392) 16 Ric. II, by writs directed _Johanni de Grey de Codenore_ or _Johanni filio Ricardi de Grey de Codenore_ or _Johanni de Grey de Codnore_, and to various Councils and for Military Service between those dates. He was serving in Scotland at great expense 18 Oct. 1335, when he had respite of debts due to the Exchequer, and Joan, his mother, had release from any distraint made.(a126) About midsummer 1345 he crossed over with the Earls of Derby and Pembroke to Gascony.(b126) He was in the Crécy expedition, joining the King during the siege of Calais.(c126) On 13 Aug. 1347 he and his heirs had a grant of free warren in all their demesne lands of Barton-on-Trent, Notts.(d126) In 1350 he had a very grave sickness.(e126) On 1 July 1359 he was granted at farm* the city of Rochester and the keepership of the castle there, to hold the same for life.(f126) On 16 Aug. following he had a protection on going abroad in the retinue of John, Earl of Richmond. On 20 June 1365, when going on a pilgrimage, he nominated attorneys (his Brother Henry de Grey being one).(h126) In 1371 he was, on account of old age and bodily infirmities, excused from attendance at parliaments, councils, &c., in consideration of his long service in the wars beyond and on this side of the seas. He m., 1stly, before 4 Sep. 1325, Eleanor.(j126) He m., 2ndly, before 20 Oct. 1330, Alice, da. of Sir Warin de Lisle, of Kingston-Lisle, by Alice, da. of Henry de Tyes, Lord Tyes, and h. of her br. Henry de Tyes.(k126) In 1344 John de Grey of Codnor and Alice his wife had licence to choose their confessor.(l126) He d. 14 Dec. 1392,(m126) having chosen his tomb in the Carmelite Church of Aylesford in Kent.(n126)
  
  (m125) His age is given variously as 24, and more, 24 and more, 28 and 30, according to the various juries concerned with his father’s inquisitions p. m.
  (n125) _Cal. Fine Rolls_.
  (a126) _Cal. Close Rolls_.
  (b126) Chron. and Mem., Adam de Murimuth, _Chron. p. 243.
  (c126) Wrottesly's _Crécy_, William Salt. Soc., vol xviii, p. 6.
  (d126) _Cal. Charter Rolls_.
  (e126) _Cal. Close Rolls_, 8 June.
  (f126) Rendering £12 yearly for the City and £38 for the Castle and guards pertaining thereto (_Cal. Fine Rolls_).
  (g126) Syllabus of Rymer’s _Fœdera_.
  (h126) _Cal. Patent Rolls_.
  (i126) _Idem_.
  (j126) Pardon to John, s. of Richard de Grey of Codnor, and Eleanor his wife for acquiring in fee tail from the said Richard the manors of Hoo and Aylesford, Kent, and entering without licence (_Cal. Patent Rolls_).
  (k126) Licence for John de Grey to enfeoff Richard de Grey of the manor of Hoo and £24 rent in Aylesford, and for Richard to regrant to John and Alice, dau. of Alice, late wife of Warin de Insula, in fee tail with remainder to heirs of Richard (_Cal. Patent Rolls_ and_Cal. Inq. p. m._, Edw. III; Inq. on Henry de Tyes, writ 8 Feb. 1326/7).
  (l126) _Cal. Papal Reg._
  (m126) Exch. _Inq. p. m._, 16 Ric. II, no. 289. Inq., co. Lincoln, Monday after the Epiphany 16 Ric. II.
  (n126) _Cal. Papal Reg._ (Petitions), 1355. In 1342 (_Idem_, Letters) he had obtained licence for the Carmelites whom his ancestors brought from the Holy Land to eat flesh at his table on lawful days. In 1344 (_Idem_, Petitions) John Paschal Carmelite Bishop of Llandaff, petitioned on behalf of John de Grey of Codnor (whose ancestors brought Carmelites from the Holy Land and settled them in England) and Alice his wife, Sir William de Harcourt, his son-in-law, and wife Joan**, Rose la Forestere of Monks-Eleigh, that their several confessors might give them plenary remission at the hour of death. As John de Grey of Codnor, baron, companion of the Duke of Lancaster, he petitioned (_Idem_) in 1355 for relaxation of 1 year and 40 days enjoined penance for those visiting the Carmelite church at Aylesford, which was granted. Of the White Friars of Aylesford, little seems to be known beyond its foundation by Richard de Grey of Codnor about 1240. [Ref: CP VI 125-6]
  
  * For the meaning of “granted at farm”, see “farm” at the Online Reference Book for Medieval Studies: http://www.the-orb.net/encyclop/culture/towns/glossary.html
  
  ** Joan (Jane per Weis AR7 50:34) was John’s sister, ergo Sir Wm. de Harcourt was his brother-in-law, not son-in-law. I don’t have it yet so don’t know if CP XIV corrected this, or whether her parentage is still in dispute...CH
  
  For precise source refs, p. 126 begins “He was sum. to Parl. from 1 Apr. (1355) 9 Edw. III”.
  FWIW, although the text of the article ends on p. 126, footnote “(n)” continues on p. 127 at “Bishop of Llandaff”
  
  Note that he had a brother Henry (see text above), a son Henry & a illegit son Nicholas (see below):
  
  [Sir Henry de Grey,(a) s. and h. [of John de Grey] by 2nd wife [Alice de Tyes], was abroad with the Duke of Lancaster in 1369. He m. Joan, da. of Reynold (de Cobham), Lord Cobham, by Joan, da. of Thomas (de Berkeley), Lord Berkeley. He d. v.p.]
  
  (a) John, Lord Grey, had also a natural son, Nicholas de Grey, on behalf of whom he petitioned for a canonry and prebend in Lincoln and Southwell, which was granted 6 Ides Feb. 1355 (_Cal. Papal Reg._). [Ref: CP VI:127] Note: the insertions "[of John de Grey]" and "[Alice de Tyes]" are mine...CH
  
  This Sir Henry de Grey’s son (John’s grandson) was Sir Richard de Grey, 4th Lord/Baron Grey of Codnor, b. in or bef. 1371, who m., bef. 1378 (when they were both 7), Elizabeth, yr. da. and coh. of Ralph (Basset), Lord Basset of Sapcote, being only child by his 2nd wife, Alice, da. of John Derby. Sir Richard d. 1 Aug. 1418 & was bur. at Aylesford. Alice d. after 23 Aug. 1446 (there is a deed dated 24 Aug. 1446 that she made re: instructions for her estates). The foregoing is reworded from CP VI:127-9. If you want the full CP article on Sir Richard let me know.
  
  Regards,
  Curt
  
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  GREY, JOHN de, third Baron (sixth by tenure) Grey of Codnor (1305-1392), soldier, born in 1305, was son of Richard de Grey (d. 1335), second baron, who was son of Henry de Grey (1254-1309) a grandson of Richard de Grey (fl. 1250). Richard de Grey, second baron (d. 1335), was one of the barons who at the assembly of Stamford on 6 Aug. 1309 drew up a letter of remonstrance to the pope on the abuses in the church (_Annales Londinienses_ in _Chron. Edw. I and II_, Rolls Ser., i. 162). He was employed in the Scottish war in 1311, 1314, and 1319-20. In 1324 he was steward of Aquitaine, and was sent to defend Argentain (Knighton, in _Scriptores Decem_, 2543), and in 1326-7 was constable of Nottingham Castle. In 1327 he was employed in the Scotch marches, and was summoned for the Scottish war in 1334, but was excused on the ground of sickness. He died in 1335.
  John de Grey took part in the wars of Edward III, in 1334, 1336, 1338, 1342, and 1346, in Scotland, and in 1339 in Flanders. In 1345 he accompanied Henry, earl of Derby, afterwards duke of Lancaster, on his expedition to France, which was followed by a year's successful warfare in Guienne (Murimuth, Appendix, p. 243, in Rolls Ser.) He was again in France in 1349, 1353, and 1360. In 1350 he had license to go on a pilgrimage to Rome (_Fœdera_, iii. 440). In 1353 he was commissioner of array for the counties of Nottingham and Derby, and in 1360 was appointed governor of Rochester Castle for life. In 1372 he received a dispensation from coming to parliament on the score of his advanced age (_ib._ iii. 914). He is sometimes described as a knight of the Garter, but this is due to confusion with John de Grey of Rotherfield (1300-1359). He was last summoned to parliament 8 Sept. 1392, and seems to have died soon after. He married Alice de Insula, by whom he had a son Henry (d. 1379).
  [Rymer's Fœdera, ed. 1830; Dugdale's Baronage, i. 710; Burke's Dormand and Extinct Peerages, p. 248.] C. L. K.* [Ref: DNB, Editors, Leslie Stephen & Sidney Lee, MacMillan Co, London & Smith, Elder & Co., NY, 1908, vol. viii, p. 635]
  
  * Charles Lethbridge Kingsford, author of this article.
  
  Apparently "de Insula" is latin for "de Lisle"...CH
  
  Regards,
  Curt
  
  Sources:
  
  1. Author: Peter Barns-Graham, Chairman
  Title: Stirnet.com
  Publication: Name: http://www.stirnet.com;
  Page: Grey01
  2. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 8th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 2004
  Page: 50-33
  3. Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
  Page: 1228
  

Details of John's family with Alice de Lisle