Joan De+ Valence 
Joan De+ was born about 1268 in England. Joan De+'s father was Guillaume De Valence De+ Lusignan and her mother was Joan De+ Munchensy. Her paternal grandparents were Hugues XI De+ Lusignan and Isabelle Taillefer D'+ Angouleme; her maternal grandparents were Warin De+ Munchensy and Joane+ Marshall. She had two sisters named Agnes De and Isabel De+. She is the youngest of the three children.General Notes
SOURCES: LDS FHL Ancestal File # 9GWZ-L5 (familysearch.org)
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"Ancestors/Descendants of Royal Lines" (Contributors: F. L. Jacquier (History of Charlemagne by Christian Settipani); L. Orlandini, Manuel Abranches de Soveral, Reynaud de Paysac, F.L. J P de Palmas (Aurejac et Tournemire; Frankish line; The Complete Peerage}, Jacquier (Genealogy of Lewis Carroll, Justin Swanstrom, The Royal Families of England Scotland & Wales by Burkes Peerage; Debrett's Peerage & Baronage; Table of descendants French Canadian Genealogical Society; Families of Monfort-sur-Risle & Bertrand de Bricquebec; The Dukes of Normandy, XXXXI), A. Brabant ("Dynastie Montmorency, Michel d'Herbigny), Paul Leportier, Claude Barret, H.R. Moser (Burke Peerage), O.Guionneau, L.B. de Rouge, E. Polti, N. Danican (Britain's Royal Families; Buthlaw, Succession of Strathclyde, the Armorial 1961-62) A.Terlinden (Genealogy of the existing British Peerage, 1842), L. Gustavsson, C. Cheneaux, E. Lodge, S. Bontron (Brian Tompsett), R. Dewkinandan, H. de la Villarmois, C. Donadello; Scevole de Livonniere, H. de la Villarmois, I. Flatmoen, P. Ract Madoux (History of Morhange; Leon Maujean; Annuaire de Lorraine, 1926; La Galissonniere: Elections d'Arques et Rouen), Jean de Villoutreys (ref: Georges Poull), E. Wilkerson-Theaux (Laura Little), O. Auffray, A. Brabant (Genealogy of Chauvigny of Blot from "Chanoine Prevost Archiviste du Diocese de Troyes Union Typographique Domois Cote-d'Or 1925), Emmanuel Arminjon (E Levi-Provencal Histoire de l'Espagne Andalouse), Y. Gazagnes-Gazanhe, R. Sekulovich and J.P. de Palmas ("notes pierfit et iconographie Insecula", Tournemire), H de Riberolles (Base Tournemire), Franck Veillon; ,(Histoire Généalogique de la Maison de Hornes, Bruxelles 1848; Notice Historique Sur L'Ancien Comté de Hornes, Gand 1850; Europäische Stammtafeln, Marburg 1978); E.Driant / "La Maison de Damas" par Hubert Lamant, 1977 (Bibliothèque municipale d'Eaubonne)
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"The Ancestry of Overmire Tifft Richardson Bradford Reed" Larry Overmire larryover@@worldnet.att.net
"Puzzles and Pieces" Linda Bentley dinkumthinkum@@hotmail.com
(MY NOTE: Could possibly be the same Joan Valence who married Humphrey de Northwode? (second marriage?)
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Ancestor Pedigree Chart
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*There are earlier generations for the ancestor(s) indicated. See their page(s) for details (click name)
- b.~ 1120 in Lusignan, Vienne, Poitou, France d.~ 1173 in Syria
- b.~ 1150
- b.1120 in Taillebourg, Charente-Maritime, Saintonge/Poitou-Charentes, France d.>11 Apr 1169
- b.~ 1170
- b.~ 1188 in Lusignan, Vienne, France d.1249 in Surrey, England
- b.~ 1120 in Angouleme, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France d.07 Aug 1178 in Messina, Sicily, Italy
- b.~ 1150 in Angouleme, Charnte-Maritime, France d.29 Aug 1233
- b.1124 in Limoges, Haute Vienne, Limousin, France
- b.~ 1170 d.1233
- b.~ 1135 in Amboise, Indre-et-Loire, Touraine/Centre, France d.1190
- b.~ 1153
- b.~ 1135 in Vendome, Loire-et-Cher, Orleanais/Centre, France d.03 Feb 1201
- b.1225 in Cistercian Abbey, Valance, Charente, France d.<18 May 1296
- b.1089 in Angouleme, Charente-Maritime, France d.1160 in YOD per one source
- b.~ 1120 in Angouleme, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France d.07 Aug 1178 in Messina, Sicily, Italy
- b.1091 in Marche, Poitou, Mortaigne, Normandy, France
- b.~ 1156 d.16 Jun 1202
- b.~ 1080 in Turenne, Correze, Limousin, France d.1122
- b.< 1123 in Turenne, Correze, Limousin, France d.> 1201
- b.~ 1074 in Pontrefact, Yorkshire, England d.28 May 1143
- b.1186 in Angouleme, Charente, France d.31 May 1246 in Fontevrault, Maine-Et-Loire, France
- b.1081 in Paris, Seine, Ile-de-France, France d.01 Aug 1134 in Chateau De Bethizy, Paris, Isle De France
- b.BET 1126 AND 1128 in Reims, Champagne, France d.1183 in Palestine, Israel
- b.1086 in Maurienne, Savoie, Rhone-Alpes, France
- b.~ 1160 d.1218
- b.~ 1105 d.~ 1190
- b.~ 1128 in Courtenay, Galinois, France d.14 Sep 1206
- b.~ 1110
- b.~ 1268 in England
- b.~ 1085 in Edwardstone, Suffolk, England d.BET 1107 AND FEB 1121 in Abingdon Abbey, Berkshire, England, as a monk
- b.~ 1113 in Edwardstone, Suffolkshire, England d.< 1162
- b.~ 1085 in Gooderstone, Swaffham, Norfolk, England
- b.> 1152 in Gooderstone, Norfolk, England d.<07 May 1204
- b.~ 1084 in Ewyas, Herefordshire, England d.10 Jul 1137 in England
- b.~ 1125 in Holkham, Norfolk, England d.<Sep 1191
- b.~ 1103 in Swanscombe, Dartford, Kent, England d.> 1137
- b.~ 1192 in Gooderstone, Norfolk, England d.~20 Jul 1255
- b.~ 1088 in Hertford, Herefordshire, England d.15 Apr 1136 in Near Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, England
- b.1126 in Tunbridge Castle, Kent, England d.1173 in Oxfordshire, England
- b.~ 1099 in Hertford, Herefordshire, England d.1128
- b.~ 1172 in Of, Herefordshire, England d.04 Jun 1225 in England
- b.BET 1105 AND 1107 in Harcourt, Eure, France or Norfolk, England d. in Norfolk, England
- b.1132 in Burfkenham, Norfolk, England d.24 Dec 1193 in Norfolk, England
- b.~ 1109
- b.~ 1222 in Prembrokeshire, Wales d.<20 Sep 1307
- b.~ 1105 in Pembrokeshire, Wales d.BET 1164 AND 1165
- b.~ 1146 in Rockley, Marlborough, Wiltshire, England/Alternate POB given d.14 May 1219 in Caversham Manor, Henley, Oxfordshire, England
- b.~ 1100 in Chitterne, Wiltshire, England/Alternate POB given d.1147 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England
- b.~ 1120 in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England
- b.~ 1100 in Kempsford, Gloucestershire, England d.< 1147 in Near the Choir, Bradenstoke Priory, Wiltshire, England
- b.~ 1199 in Pembrokeshire, Wales d.~ 1234
- b.21 Sep 1100 in Tunbridge, Kent, England d.06 Jan 1149 in Monmouthshire, England
- b.1130 in Tunbridge, Kent, England d.20 Apr 1176 in Dublin, Leinster, Ireland
- b.~ 1110 in Of, Leicestershire, England d.~ 1147
- b.~ 1172 in Pembrokeshire, Wales d.1220 in Pembrokeshire, Wales
- b.1110 in Dublin, Leinster, Ireland d.01 May 1171 in Wexford, Ireland
- b.~ 1142 in Leinster, Ireland d.1177
- b.~ 1118 in Leinster, Ireland
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Joan De+ and John III+ were married in a religious ceremony about 1289 in Badenoch, Invernesshire, Scotland. They had two daughters named Joan and Elizabeth+.
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Children
Joan Comyn
Joan was born about 1290 in Badenoch, Invernesshire, Scotland. She died before July 24th, 1326.
Elizabeth+ Comyn
Elizabeth+ was born on November 1st, 1299 in Wyke, Cornwall, England. She died at the age of 56 on October 5th, 1356.