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Sir John de St. John, d. 20-29 Sep 1302, of Basing, Hampshire, Constableof Porcestre Castle , Seneschal of Gascony, Seneschal of Aquitaine, son &heir of Sir Robert de St. John, d. c 126 9, of Basing, Hampshire,Constable of Porcestre Castle & Agnes, daughter of William de Cauntel o,d. 1251, of Calne, co. Wilts, and Eaton Bray, co. Bedford, & Millicent deGournay. [Ancestr al Roots]  ---------------------------------------  John was also Governor of Porchester Castle. This baron acquired a highmilitary reputation i n the wars of Edward I and in his capacity ofLieutenant of Aquitiane achieved some importan t conquests. In 1296 hetook the City of Bayonne by assault and its castle surrendered after a seige of 8 days. After engaging in many other conflicts he was finallymade prisoner, but wa s redeemed and afterwards deputed Ambassador toFrance with John, Earl of Warren and other per sons of rank. Gov. ofPorchester Castle.  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------  Sir JOHN DE ST. JOHN, 1st or 1st surviving son and heir (j), received thecustody of Porcheste r castle upon his father's death, and his relief wasforgiven on account of his and his father 's notable services. He was oneof the Council who notified Prince Edward in Palestine of th e death ofHenry III and their proclamation of his successor. In 1276 he was one ofthe magnate s de consilio Regis, who declared Llewelyn a rebel, andinitiated a campaign against him. In 1 283, summoned to the Assembly atShrewsbury. He was one of the magnates whom Edward took wit h him (May1286) on his prolonged political tour in France and Spain; and, aftertheir return , a commissioner (October 1289) to hear complaints againstthe King's officials during his abs ence. In November he was "now stayingcontinually with the King." He participated in the "parl iament " afterEaster 1290. From October that year he was engaged on foreign politicalmissions . In 1292 he was one of the Auditors on behalf of the King at thetrial of the claims to the c rown of Scotland. Appointed Lieutenant ofAquitaine, 12 July 1293, Sire Jon de Seyn John, ke c onust les countrez,went out to organize the campaign. He went out again in 1294, assenescha l of Aquitaine and a plenipotentiary to deal with Castile and wason the staff of the Earls o f Richmond, Lancaster and Lincoln,successively Lieutenants. He was captured by the French, 12 96 or 1297. Onhis return, 1297, he was summoned to a military council at Rochester andfor ser vice in Flanders. From 1298 till his death he was engaged inmilitary operations in Scotland , chiefly in Galloway, and in the WesternMarches. His seal is attached to the Barons' lette r to the Pope, February1300/1. He married, before 29 June 1256, Alice, daughter of Sir Reynol dFITZPIERS, by his 1st wife, Alice. He presumably died between 20 and 29September 1302. His w idow was living in 1305. [Complete PeerageXI:323-5, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]  (j) The William de St. John, who d. 9 Mar 1353/4 at St. Macaire, with 92days' pay due him, ma y have been the elder son of Robert de St. John, whoin Nov 1353, was to have a reasonable ai d for the knighting of his eldestson. This son can hardly have been Robert's successor John , who in 1256was not yet of marriageable age.  Sir John de St. John, d. 20-29 Sep 1302, of Basing, Hampshire, Constableof Porcestre Castle , Seneschal of Gascony, Seneschal of Aquitaine, son &heir of Sir Robert de St. John, d. c 126 9, of Basing, Hampshire,Constable of Porcestre Castle & Agnes, daughter of William de Cauntel o,d. 1251, of Calne, co. Wilts, and Eaton Bray, co. Bedford, & Millicent deGournay. [Ancestr al Roots]  ---------------------------------------  John was also Governor of Porchester Castle. This baron acquired a highmilitary reputation i n the wars of Edward I and in his capacity ofLieutenant of Aquitiane achieved some importan t conquests. In 1296 hetook the City of Bayonne by assault and its castle surrendered after a seige of 8 days. After engaging in many other conflicts he was finallymade prisoner, but wa s redeemed and afterwards deputed Ambassador toFrance with John, Earl of Warren and other per sons of rank. Gov. ofPorchester Castle.  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------  Sir JOHN DE ST. JOHN, 1st or 1st surviving son and heir (j), received thecustody of Porcheste r castle upon his father's death, and his relief wasforgiven on account of his and his father 's notable services. He was oneof the Council who notified Prince Edward in Palestine of th e death ofHenry III and their proclamation of his successor. In 1276 he was one ofthe magnate s de consilio Regis, who declared Llewelyn a rebel, andinitiated a campaign against him. In 1 283, summoned to the Assembly atShrewsbury. He was one of the magnates whom Edward took wit h him (May1286) on his prolonged political tour in France and Spain; and, aftertheir return , a commissioner (October 1289) to hear complaints againstthe King's officials during his abs ence. In November he was "now stayingcontinually with the King." He participated in the "parl iament " afterEaster 1290. From October that year he was engaged on foreign politicalmissions . In 1292 he was one of the Auditors on behalf of the King at thetrial of the claims to the c rown of Scotland. Appointed Lieutenant ofAquitaine, 12 July 1293, Sire Jon de Seyn John, ke c onust les countrez,went out to organize the campaign. He went out again in 1294, assenescha l of Aquitaine and a plenipotentiary to deal with Castile and wason the staff of the Earls o f Richmond, Lancaster and Lincoln,successively Lieutenants. He was captured by the French, 12 96 or 1297. Onhis return, 1297, he was summoned to a military council at Rochester andfor ser vice in Flanders. From 1298 till his death he was engaged inmilitary operations in Scotland , chiefly in Galloway, and in the WesternMarches. His seal is attached to the Barons' lette r to the Pope, February1300/1. He married, before 29 June 1256, Alice, daughter of Sir Reynol dFITZPIERS, by his 1st wife, Alice. He presumably died between 20 and 29September 1302. His w idow was living in 1305. [Complete PeerageXI:323-5, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]  (j) The William de St. John, who d. 9 Mar 1353/4 at St. Macaire, with 92days' pay due him, ma y have been the elder son of Robert de St. John, whoin Nov 1353, was to have a reasonable ai d for the knighting of his eldestson. This son can hardly have been Robert's successor John , who in 1256was not yet of marriageable age.  John was also Governor of Porchester Castle. This baron acquired a high military reputation i n the wars of Edward I and in his capacity of Lieutenant of Aquitiane achieved some importan t conquests. In 1296 he took the City of Bayonne by assault and its castle surrendered afte r a seige of 8 days. After engaging in many other conflicts he was finally made prisoner, bu t was redeemed and afterwards deputed Ambassador to France with John, Earl of Warren and othe r persons of rank. Gov. of Porchester Castle.  -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ ----------------------------------- Following copied from Dave Utzinger, World Connect db=utzing, rootsweb.com: Which appears to be a quotation from the "Complete Peerage". -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ -----------------------------------  Sir JOHN DE ST. JOHN, 1st or 1st surviving son and heir, received the custody of Porchester c astle upon his father's death, and his relief was forgiven on account of his and his father' s notable services. He was one of the Council who notified Prince Edward in Palestine of th e death of Henry III and their proclamation of his successor. In 1276 he was one of the magna tes de consilio Regis, who declared Llewelyn a rebel, and initiated a campaign against him. I n 1283, summoned to the Assembly at Shrewsbury. He was one of the magnates whom Edward took w ith him (May 1286) on his prolonged political tour in France and Spain; and, after their retu rn, a commissioner (October 1289) to hear complaints against the King's officials during hi s absence. In November he was "now staying continually with the King." He participated in th e "parliament " after Easter 1290. From October that year he was engaged on foreign politica l missions. In 1292 he was one of the Auditors on behalf of the King at the trial of the clai ms to the crown of Scotland. Appointed Lieutenant of Aquitaine, 12 July 1293, Sire Jon de Sey n John, ke conust les countrez, went out to organize the campaign. He went out again in 1294 , as seneschal of Aquitaine and a plenipotentiary to deal with Castile and was on the staff o f the Earls of Richmond, Lancaster and Lincoln, successively Lieutenantss. He was captured b y the French, 1296 or 1297. On his return, 1297, he was summoned to a military council at Roc hester and for service in Flanders. From 1298 till his death he was engaged in military opera tions in Scotland, chiefly in Galloway, and in the Western Marches. His seal is attached to t he Barons' letter to the Pope, February 1300/1. He married, before 29 June 1256, Alice, daugh ter of Sir Reynold FITZPIERS, by his 1st wife, Alice. He presumably died between 20 and 29 Se ptember 1302. His widow was living in 1305. [CP 11:323-5]