General Notes

Following is a post to SGM, 25 Oct 2001, by Rosie Bevan:

From: Rosie Bevan (cbevan@paradise.net.nz)
Subject: Re: Sir Leonard Hastings Family Chronology
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2001-10-25 21:20:44 PST

Ralph Hastings b.c 1335 (30 years and more in 38 Edw III) was son of Ralph Hastings d.1346 and Margaret de Herle. Margaret brought a moiety of the barony of Bolebec to the Hastings family on the death of her brother Robert de Herle (IPM 38 Edw III). She was the sister and heir in her issue of Sir Robert de Herle (d.1364), of Drakenage and Burton Hastings, Warks. Both were children of Sir William de Herle (d.1347), of Caldecote, Warks. Ralph Hastings was retainer of Henry Duke of Lancaster at the wages of forty marks per annum, to be paid out of the manor of Pickering. In 1372 he was joined in commission with Thomas Hatfield, Bishop of Durham, Gilbert de Umfraville, Earl of Angus on the affairs of the Scottish borders. In 1376 he was employed with the Earl of Warwick on a similar service. In 1377 and again in 1380 he was Sheriff of Yorkshire and governor of York Castle. He married first Isabel de Sadyngton and presumably had a daughter Margaret d. 1406 who carried Isabel's inheritance of Nosely, Leics into the Heron family. Margaret was unmarried when he made his will which is a bit odd considering she would be at least two years older than Richard Hastings her half brother then aged about 15 (unless Ralph had two daughters named Margaret). He married secondly Matilda da. and coheir of Sir Thomas Sutton of Sutton in Holderness [Surtees Soc. Pubn, v 4].

His will was made at Slingsby on 21 Sept 1397. He mentions his dead father Ralph, dead mother Margaret, dead wife Isabella de Sadyngton and her father Robert de Sadyngton. He mentions as living, Matilda his wife, his 'filio meo seniori' (but not by name), and son Bartholomew. Unfortunately there is no mention of Leonard. Probate was 25 Feb 1397.[Surtees Soc Pubn, v.4 p.]

IPM RALPH HAYSTINGS, Kt 1401
540 Writs ordering the inquisition below to be sent into chancery 20 and 22 June 1401 Endorsed The escheator received the writs at Richmond on 2 July and despatched them with the inquisition the following day.

Another writ ordering release of the lands 15 Oct 1401 York ex officio Slingsby 23 June. Ralph de Hastynges, kt of Slingsby held in his demesne as of fee of Thomas son and heir of Thomas duke of Norfolk, of his manor of Thirsk by knight service, the castle and manor of Slingsby with its members in Slingsby, Coulton, and Howthorpe. The castle and manor of Slingsby are worth 16 L annually, payable by equal parts at Martinmas and Whitsun, Coulton 40 s and Howthorpe 8L payable at the same terms.

He died on 27 Oct 1397. Richard de Hastynges, kt, his son and heir, will be 20 years of age on 24 Aug next.
C137/29, no78
E149/76, no.5

In the of IPM of Constance wife of Peter de Mauley the sixth (writ 21 June 1401) is this the following passage.
"She held in dower, of the king in chief by knight service by the assignment of Thomas de Percy, earl of Worcester, guardian of the lands and heir of Peter de Mauley, son of Peter son of Peter VI, her husband." " Bransholme, the castle and manor, Sutton on Hull, the manor and the six advowsons of the chantries of 6 chaplains celebrating in the the chapel of Sutton in Holderness, by virtue of a grant by Richard Ravenser, Robert Lorimer and Thomas de Beverley to Thomas de Sutton, kt, and Agnes his wife, and the heirs male of their bodies, with remainder in tail male to Peter de Mauley and Constance his wife, and Peter de Mauley his son and Margery his wife, with reversion to the right heirs of Thomas de Sutton. Thomas and Agnes died without heirs male of their bodies. Peter and Margery had issue Peter to whom the manor and advowsons should descend." Constance was not mother of Piers VI' son and heir, Piers VII. She married secondly sir John Godard.

According to CP VIII ; pp567-569, Constance was da. and coheir of Sir Thomas Sutton and her younger sisters were Agnes and Margery. Margery was married to Piers de Mauley VII c. 1371 (and so her eldest sister was also confusingly her step mother in law). It appears that Margary married secondly William de Aldburgh and they both died in 1391. This poses something of a problem as to who the Maud de Sutton who married Ralph de Hastings was, if we are to believe she was of Sutton in Holderness.

The pedigree of Sutton of Holderness in the Visitations of the North, (Surtees v. 133) taken from a register in the Abbey of Meux contradicts the above saying that the three daughters of 'Seyrus Lord Sutton' were Maud married to Sir William Percy, Marie married to Sir John Melton and Custance married to Sir Peter Demalolac (Piers de Mauley).

CP VIII : p570 states that in the IPM of Piers de Mauley VIII (Ch Inq p. m. 3 Hen V no 54) who died 1415 without issue, the Sutton estate reverted to Agnes, da and coh. of Sir Thomas Sutton, wife of Sir Edmund Hastings; Sir John Godard son of Constance Sutton, Constance wife of Sir John Bigod; and Elizabeth wife of George Salvain. The latter two ladies were daughters of Margery Sutton.

Tim's source stated that Maud was da. of Sir Robert de Sutton of Holderness but whether Maud was a Holderness Sutton is questionable. She doesn't seem to have been an heiress. With the mention of Sir Edmund Hastings, I wonder if this is a case of mistaken identity here and she is in fact a Dudley Sutton. Leonard and Bartholomew are very distinctive names and not used previously in the Dudley Sutton nor Hastings family that I'm aware.

I'm afraid that my resources are exhausted and cannot take the quest further.

Cheers

Rosie