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Of Chesham and Aston Clinton.  Had three sons, 1) Richard of
Donnigge, Aston Clinton, St. Leonard's, Buckinghamshire County, born
1509, will dated 1552/3, who married Ellen Apuke; 2) Robert; and 3)
John of the Hale, will dated 12 March 1564/5.

Positively identified as father of Richard Baldwin of Dundridge.
Records show that this Baldwin family was present for some time
before Robert, but no identification of his father has been proved.

http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/.

New England Genealogical Society Register 110, 310, 1956.  Chesham
Manor Court Rolls show that Baldwins were in Chesham hamlet of
Bellingdon since the 13th century.  Death of Robert Baldwin presented
in court at Chesham Bury 16 April 1537.  Was owner of freelands and
tenements at Bellenden called Pygotts and Belchers, also at Dungrove
in Botley, Chesham.  These properties deeded to younger son Richard.
In court 16 April 1538, John Baldwin, heir of Robert Baldwin, named.

A.V. Woodman 1959, New England Genealogical Society Register 113, 245-
248.  From the Court Rolls of the Manor of Chesham come the following
records, no generational links necessarily specified.
I.  John Baldwyne:  given as an adjoining land owner in a Chesham
charter in the mid 13th century.
II.  William Baldewyne, son of John Baldewyne.  By agreement with
Matthew, Abbot of Missenden 29 October 1301, William Baldewyne is to
receive all lands and tenements recovered by the Abbot from William
in the Court of the King's Ben ch, to hold by rent of 3s per annum.
1314, William Baldewyne fined 6d for trespass in the lord's corn.
III.  William and Thomas Baldewyne.  Both (and others) were fined in
1330 1d for not being present at the court in their tithing.  1335
and again in 1337, free tenant William Baldewyne fined 3p for default
of suit of court.  1341, Thomas Baldewyne fined 3d for default.
IV.  Richard Baldewyne.  Served 1354-1367 as one of the parish
constables.  1368-1377 served as a tithing man.  1350, Richard
Baldewyne appeared in court to explain the absence of John le Longe.
V.  Richard Baldewyne.  Served 1379-1384 as constable.
VI.  John Baldewyne.  7 October 1409.  John Baldewyne, kinsman and
heir to Isabel Blakewell, wife of John Blakewell, sought to gain the
household called Moryngnes (Moorings) in Chesham held by John
Blakewell upon the death of his wife Isabel.  John Baldewyne argued
that a husband under law could not continue to hold that property,
but that it reverted to the next of kin.  Blakewell was fined 3d for
unjust deforecement.  Isabel's sister Alice Webbe was coholder of the
tenement and 35 acres.  Isabel and John Blakewell had a son John
Blakewell who would have been Isabel's heir, in which case her
widowed husband would have held the land until his death.  But if
John Blakewell Jr. died, then the interest of John Blakewell Sr.
would have been abrogated.  1421, John Baldewyne fined 2d for
brewing.  Sworn in for tithing that year.  1424 and 1429, on the
homage.  He died b efore Easter 1442 when the heir of John Baldewyne
was fined 2d for default.
VII.  John Baldewyne.  1421, sworn in for tithing presumably at age
12, hence born circa 1409.  He was the aforementioned heir of John
Baldewyne, his father.  13 April 1467, was chief tithing man of
Belynder; he held office for several years.  1468, John Baldwyn and
William Bacheler, the two "most aged and best" in Belenden, appointed
to certify the survey of glebes (church owned revenue producing
lands) and tithes belonging to Leicester Abbey.  1483, a will (now
missing) of John Baldwyn was proved.
VIII.  John Baldwyn.  1482, Henry Webbe, son of John Webbe the
younger, age 15 (hence born 1467), and his property given to custody
of John Baldwyn and Henry Tokefeld.  1484, John Baldwyn fined 4d for
default.  1485, John Baldwyn juror as in 1503.  Not in taxation rolls
of 1524.
IX.  Robert Baldwyn.  First Baldwyn at Dundridge which he may have
leased.  1497, Robert rented 1/2 acre at Colyerscrosse for 2d per
annum.  1510, rented part of Sparrowespece at 6d per annum.  1525,
his Aston Clinton lands valued at 2 and goods at 13, for tax of
6s6d.  As part of a change in his taxes, it was noted that Robert's
son had married within the year.  His death presented to court 16
April 1536 where it was noted that lands at Dungrove in Botley had
been given to his younger son Richard Baldwyn.  16 April 1537 court
papers show that free lands at Dungrove and an acre of land
Sperrowacre had been given to son Richard.  Robert also owned a
pightie (small parcel of land), 1/2 acre, lying near Colyerscrosse.
John Baldwyn was next heir and of full age.  Sons of Robert:
1)  John Baldwyn of the Hale (a part of the manor of Wivelsgate,
which passed to John's son George who died in 1576).
2)  Thomas Baldwin of the Forrens of Wendover.
3)  Richard Baldwin of Dundridge.

William F. Baldwin, baldent@@voicenet.com, 14 June 1997.  April 1536,
court records show that Robert Baldwin held freely certain lands and
tenements at Bellenden and others at Dungrove in Botley -- these
given by deed presented in court to son Richard.  Richard also
received an acre of land called Sperrowacre in April 1537.  John of
the Hayle was established as his son and next heir, being of full age
-- this was of import to the Lord of the Manor who held the
responsibility of the obligations of the tenure system and who would
have necessarily assumed that the properties went to Robert's heir
John.  In this time, it was generally impossible to pass land titles
via wills.  (Referenced from P.H. Haselton 1989, The English Ancestry
of Joseph and Sylvester Baldwin, p. 10.)  The Statute of Wills,
allowing transfer of land by will, was not passed by Parliament until
1540.

P.H. Haselton 1989, The English Ancestry of Joseph and Sylvester
Baldwin, p. 11.  1509:  Robert Baldwin one of original trustees of
the Chapel Trust in St. Leonards.  1522:  Muster Roll shows Robert
Baldwin resident at Dundridge, with 20 in goods, but no land
recorded.

P.H. Haselton 1989, The English Ancestry of Joseph and Sylvester
Baldwin, p. 12.  The evidence linking Hugh Baldwin to this family is
inadequate to show that he is a son of Robert.

Caroline R. McBridge, crmcbride@@juno.com, 28 July 1997, baldwin-
l@@rootsweb.com, gives the following decendancy for the earliest
Baldwins:

John Baldwin[1] (1415 - )
---Sylvester Baldwin[3], possibly married Sara(h) Gelly.  [Wayne
Dunn, post to baldwin-l@@rootsweb.com, 29 March 1998.  Sylvester died
1503.]
---William Baldwin[2] (1441 Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, England - ),
married Jane Aylesbury (1442 Oterarsfee, Buckinghamshire, England),
daughter of Richard Aylesbury.
--*---Richard Edward Baldwin[4] (1468 Aylesbury - 21 September 1485)
--*--*---Richard Baldwin[7] (1500 Aston Clinton, Buckinghamshire,
England - 1553 Aston Clinton), married 1522 Ellen Apuke (1507 Aston
Clinton - 1565 Aston Clinton), sister of John Apuke. [In this file,
Richard is considered as son of Robert Baldwin.]
--*--*--*---Henry Baldwin[20]
--*--*--*---Richard Baldwin[21]
--*--*--*---John Baldwin[22]
--*--*--*---Alice (Alis) Baldwin[23] (1535 - 1567)
--*--*--*---Agnes Baldwin[24]
--*--*--*---Lettice Baldwin[25]
--*--*--*---Cicely Baldwin[26] (ca 1550 - 1599)
--*--*---John Baldwin[8] (1507 Buckinghamshire - 1565/6)  [In this
file, John is considered to be  the son of Robert Baldwin.]
--*--*--*---George Baldwin[27]
--*--*--*---Nicholas Baldwin[28]
--*--*--*---Sylvester Baldwin[29]
--*--*--*---Richard Baldwin[30]
--*--*--*---Robert Baldwin[31]
--*--*--*---Thomas Baldwin[32]
--*--*--*---Hugh Baldwin[33] (1553 - )
--*---Sir John Baldwin[5] (11 aug 1470 Aylesbury - 24 October 1545
Buckinghamshire, England), married Agnes Dormer (1482 Hayle,
Buckinghamshire, England - ), daughter of William Dormer and Jane
Launcelyn
--*--*---Catherine Baldwin[9] (1499 - )
--*--*---Thomas Baldwin[10] ( - 15 May 1522 Wendover,
Buckinghamshire, England) -- may have been a nephew, not son, of Sir
John.  [In this file considered son of Robert.]
--*--*---William Baldwin[13] (1514 Buckinghamshire - before 1545),
married Mary Tyringham.
--*--*--?---John Baldwin?
--*--*---Alice Baldwin[12] (1509 Buckinghamshire - ), married John
Apuke.
--*--*---Agnes/Ann Baldwin[14] (1516 Buckinghamshire - ), married
Robert Packingham
--*--*--*---Thomas Packingham
--*--*--*--*---John Packingham
--*--*---Pernell/Petronilla Baldwin[11], married Sir Thomas Ramsay
and married _ Burlacy
--*--*--*---John Burlacy
--*---Robert Baldwin[6] (ca 1475 - 1536/7 Dundridge, Buckinghamshire,
England), married Agnes Dolte.
--*--*---Robert Baldwin[15]
--*--*---Richard Baldwin[16], supposedly moved north where his
descendants still live.
--*--*---Thomas Baldwin[17]
--*--*---Hugh Baldwin[18]
--*--*---John Baldwin[19] (ca 1500 Buckinghamshire - 1564/5)
--*--*--*---Thomas Baldwin[34]
--*--*--*---George Baldwin[35]
--*--*--*---Sylvester Baldwin[36]
--*--*--*---Richard Baldwin[37]
--*--*--*---Robert Baldwin[38]
--*--*--*---Nicholas Baldwin[39]

Wayne Dunn, post to baldwin-l@@rootsweb.com, 29 March 1998.  Richard
Aylesbury was the son of Robert Le Aylesbury (1386 Oterasfee,
Buckinghamshire, England - ?).  Robert was the son of Roger Aylesbury
(1359 Oterasfee,  Buckinghamshire, England - ).

H.F. Seversmith 1939, Colonial Families of Long Island, New York, and
Connecticut, Being the Ancestry and kindred of Herbert Furman
Seversmith, vol. 1, pp. 250-253.  Robert Baldwin was the earliest
resident of Dundridge and only one of that surname.  Apparently of
Wendover, he moved from Aston Clinton to Dundrige in or before 1528.
     1509.  Robert Baldwyn paid 6s 8d to the King for a license to
rent 80 acres of land and 12 acres of wood in Chesham,
Buckinghamshire, to Thomas and Alice Whelpley.
     12 July 1518.  Robert Baldwin ordered to be brought for
testimony in a case to be heard before the Court at Westminister
     In 1528, Thomas Wedon and John Tokevyle brought action against
Robert Baldwyn, "late of Aston Clynton, sernior, husbandman, alias of
Dunrigge, parish of Aston Clynton" in a plea of debt regarding 10
quarters of wheat evaluated at 16.
     1536.  John Long of London brought an action against Robert
Baldwyn and his wife Agnes, executirx of the will of William Dolte of
Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, regarding an unpaid debt of 50.
Apparently they claimed they had no funds and could not be found by
the Sheriff to be forced into court.
     Children:  Robert, Richard, John, Thomas, and possibly Hugh.

Cecil L. Peters, 10 November 2000.  Robert as the earliest ancestor
of the Baldwin family is disputed by Gary Boyd Roberts, English
Origins of New England Families.


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