Louis II "The Stammerer" , King of ("The Stammerer") France 
Louis II "The Stammerer" , King of, known as "The Stammerer", was born in ,,,France and his baptism took place in France - Aka Louis le Begue.1 "The Stammerer"'s father was Charles II "The Bald" King of France and his mother was Ermentrude Queen of Franks. His paternal grandparents were Louis I "The Pious" France King of and Judith "The Fair" Princess of Bavaria; his maternal grandparents were Eudes of Paris & Orleans and Engletrude of Orleans. He had four brothers and seven sisters, named Charles, Carloman Prince Of, Drogo Of, Pippin Of, Judith Princess of, Rotrude, Ermentrud Princess Of, Hersent Ermentrude of, Hildegarde Princess of, Gisaele Princess Of and Godehilde Princess. He had two half-brothers and a half-sister, named Charles, Roger Count of and Princess. He died in Compiaegne,Neustria.2 General Notes
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Title: Kingdom's of Europe, Illustrated Encyclopedia of Ruling Monarchs FromAncient Times to the Present
Author: Gene Gurney
Publication: Crown Publishers, New York. 1982
Page: Gurney page 125.
Kingdom of France Ruled BET 877 AND 879 France
Note: Louis II, son of Charles the Bald, ruled the Kingdom of France,succeeding his father in 877. Louis II ruled until 879, succeeded byhis son Louis III
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Abbrev: SOURCE #337
Title: Kingdom's of Europe, Illustrated Encyclopedia of Ruling Monarchs FromAncient Times to the Present
Author: Gene Gurney
Publication: Crown Publishers, New York. 1982
Page: Gurney page 125.
Kingdom of France Ruled BET 877 AND 879 France
Note: Louis II, son of Charles the Bald, ruled the Kingdom of France,succeeding his father in 877. Louis II ruled until 879, succeeded byhis son Louis III
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Louis II, son of Charles the Bald, ruled the Kingdom of France,succeeding his father in 877. Louis II ruled until 879, succeeded byhis son Louis III.
ABBR SOURCE #337
TITL Kingdom's of Europe, Illustrated Encyclopedia of Ruling Monarchs FromAncient Times to the Present
AUTH Gene Gurney
PUBL Crown Publishers, New York. 1982
PAGE Gurney page 125.
Known as "Louis the Stammerer".
OCCU Emperor of the West ...
SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 1 Nov 846, France;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p.130 says Nov 846;
COLLINS.ROY (Compuserve) & CHARL.TXT say 844;
SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 10 Apr 879, Compiegne,Oise,
France; 1CHARL.TXT (Compuserve), COMYNI.GED (Compuserve);
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130;
SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; al7fl.abts.net/green-page/greenged.html ;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130;
HAWKINS.GED;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family ;
Louis the Stammerer,son of Charles II, emperor of the West, was the king of
France (r. 877-879). His succession was shared by his sons Carloman and Louis
III - Encyclopedia, p. 491; King of Aquitaine, Caroling, King of France -
COMYNI.GED (Compuserve), #1144;King of West Franks, King of France, 877-879,
Emperor of the West, 878-879; Adelaide was his 2nd wife - Royalty for Commoner
s, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130
OCCU Emperor of the West ...
SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 1 Nov 846, France;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p.130 says Nov 846;
COLLINS.ROY (Compuserve) & CHARL.TXT say 844;
SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 10 Apr 879, Compiegne,Oise,
France; 1CHARL.TXT (Compuserve), COMYNI.GED (Compuserve);
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130;
SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; al7fl.abts.net/green-page/greenged.html ;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130;
HAWKINS.GED;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family ;
Louis the Stammerer,son of Charles II, emperor of the West, was the king of
France (r. 877-879). His succession was shared by his sons Carloman and Louis
III - Encyclopedia, p. 491; King of Aquitaine, Caroling, King of France -
COMYNI.GED (Compuserve), #1144;King of West Franks, King of France, 877-879,
Emperor of the West, 878-879; Adelaide was his 2nd wife - Royalty for Commoner
s, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130
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Louis II, son of Charles the Bald, ruled the Kingdom of France,succeeding his father in 877. Louis II ruled until 879, succeeded byhis son Louis III.
ABBR SOURCE #337
TITL Kingdom's of Europe, Illustrated Encyclopedia of Ruling Monarchs FromAncient Times to the Present
AUTH Gene Gurney
PUBL Crown Publishers, New York. 1982
PAGE Gurney page 125.
Known as "Louis the Stammerer".
OCCU Emperor of the West ...
SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 1 Nov 846, France;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p.130 says Nov 846;
COLLINS.ROY (Compuserve) & CHARL.TXT say 844;
SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 10 Apr 879, Compiegne,Oise,
France; 1CHARL.TXT (Compuserve), COMYNI.GED (Compuserve);
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130;
SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; al7fl.abts.net/green-page/greenged.html ;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130;
HAWKINS.GED;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family ;
Louis the Stammerer,son of Charles II, emperor of the West, was the king of
France (r. 877-879). His succession was shared by his sons Carloman and Louis
III - Encyclopedia, p. 491; King of Aquitaine, Caroling, King of France -
COMYNI.GED (Compuserve), #1144;King of West Franks, King of France, 877-879,
Emperor of the West, 878-879; Adelaide was his 2nd wife - Royalty for Commoner
s, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130
OCCU Emperor of the West ...
SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 1 Nov 846, France;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p.130 says Nov 846;
COLLINS.ROY (Compuserve) & CHARL.TXT say 844;
SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 10 Apr 879, Compiegne,Oise,
France; 1CHARL.TXT (Compuserve), COMYNI.GED (Compuserve);
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130;
SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; al7fl.abts.net/green-page/greenged.html ;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130;
HAWKINS.GED;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family ;
Louis the Stammerer,son of Charles II, emperor of the West, was the king of
France (r. 877-879). His succession was shared by his sons Carloman and Louis
III - Encyclopedia, p. 491; King of Aquitaine, Caroling, King of France -
COMYNI.GED (Compuserve), #1144;King of West Franks, King of France, 877-879,
Emperor of the West, 878-879; Adelaide was his 2nd wife - Royalty for Commoner
s, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130
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Louis II, son of Charles the Bald, ruled the Kingdom of France,succeeding his father in 877. Louis II ruled until 879, succeeded byhis son Louis III.
ABBR SOURCE #337
TITL Kingdom's of Europe, Illustrated Encyclopedia of Ruling Monarchs FromAncient Times to the Present
AUTH Gene Gurney
PUBL Crown Publishers, New York. 1982
PAGE Gurney page 125.
Known as "Louis the Stammerer".
OCCU Emperor of the West ...
SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 1 Nov 846, France;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p.130 says Nov 846;
COLLINS.ROY (Compuserve) & CHARL.TXT say 844;
SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 10 Apr 879, Compiegne,Oise,
France; 1CHARL.TXT (Compuserve), COMYNI.GED (Compuserve);
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130;
SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; al7fl.abts.net/green-page/greenged.html ;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130;
HAWKINS.GED;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family ;
Louis the Stammerer,son of Charles II, emperor of the West, was the king of
France (r. 877-879). His succession was shared by his sons Carloman and Louis
III - Encyclopedia, p. 491; King of Aquitaine, Caroling, King of France -
COMYNI.GED (Compuserve), #1144;King of West Franks, King of France, 877-879,
Emperor of the West, 878-879; Adelaide was his 2nd wife - Royalty for Commoner
s, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130
OCCU Emperor of the West ...
SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 1 Nov 846, France;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p.130 says Nov 846;
COLLINS.ROY (Compuserve) & CHARL.TXT say 844;
SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; members.aol.com/sargen3 says 10 Apr 879, Compiegne,Oise,
France; 1CHARL.TXT (Compuserve), COMYNI.GED (Compuserve);
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130;
SOUR Encyclopedia, p. 491; al7fl.abts.net/green-page/greenged.html ;
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130;
HAWKINS.GED;www.public.asu.edu/bgertz/family ;
Louis the Stammerer,son of Charles II, emperor of the West, was the king of
France (r. 877-879). His succession was shared by his sons Carloman and Louis
III - Encyclopedia, p. 491; King of Aquitaine, Caroling, King of France -
COMYNI.GED (Compuserve), #1144;King of West Franks, King of France, 877-879,
Emperor of the West, 878-879; Adelaide was his 2nd wife - Royalty for Commoner
s, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 130
DATE 31 MAY 2000
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Louis II, King de France (the Stammerer)
(Andre Roux: Scrolls, 191.)
(Stuart, Royalty for Commoners, Page 130, Line 171-38.)
(Paul, Nouveau Larousse Universel.)
(Rosamond, Frankish kingdom under Carolingians, Page 258.)
(Andre Castelot, Histoire de La France, Tome 1, Page 387).
AKA: Louis II, King d'Aquitaine. Also Known As: Louis "Le Begue".
Born: in Nov 846 in Compiegne, Oise, Ile-de-France, France, son of Charles II, King de France and Ermentrude d'Orleans . Married in 862: Ansgarde de Bourgogne , daughter of Hardouin, Count de Bourgogne; She was given in marriage to Louis by her brother, Odon, often confused with Odon, Count of Troyes, an older man and one of Louis' detractors (Rosamond, Frankish kingdom under Carolingians, Page 185). Note - between 867 and 879: Louis II was the King of Aquitaine from 867 to 879 and became King of France in 877, crowned at Compiegne by Hincmar, Archbishop of Rheims on 8 October. If the children and grandchildren of Charlemagne had an easy time ascending to the throne by virtue of their parentage, the same is not true for Louis. Louis had to be elected by the Greats - the nobles whose power had been growing steadily - and they conceded only after having received countships and additional powers. Moreover, Louis had to accept the tutelage of his maternal uncle, Hughes, Marquis of Neustria who also received the countship of Tours. He died 16 months later while making preparations to reprimand Bernard, Duke of Septimanie. Upon his death, nobles, looking to enhance their own power saw the kingdom partitioned between Louis III and Carloman, who were both crowned and anointed at Ferrieres in September 879 by Ansegis, Archbishop of Sens. Louis III's portion comprised Francia and Neustria, and Carloman ruled Burgundy, Aquitaine and Gothia.
Married between 868 and 869: Adelaide=Adelheid de Paris, daughter of Adalhard, Count de Paris.
Died: on 11 Apr 879 in France at age 32 Louis II died sooner than expected after having divided his kingdom between his two sons, Louis III and Carloman. To the older son went Francia and Neustria; and to the younger went Bourgogne, Aquitaine and the Marche of Spain. This creation of two kingdoms is highly disputed because the two sons are not viewed by some as legitimate because Charles le Chauve had not officially recognized Louis marriage to Ansgarde. Louis was not favored, and on 15 October 879, Provence and Bourgogne recognize Richilde's (Charles le Chauve's widow) brother, Bozon. Moreover, Louis, son of Louis le Germanique, also lays claim to the throne of France. Thus, to make matters rather complicated there exists three kings of France at this time.
Name Suffix:<NSFX> ["The Lame"]
Ancestral File Number:<AFN> 9G62-1B
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- b.0676 in of,Heristal,Liege,Belgium d.22 OCT 741 in Quierzy,Aisne,France
- b.0714 in ,Austrasia,France d.24 SEP 768 in St. Denis,France
- b.0695 in Trier/Treves (Rhine Valley) d.~ 0724 in France (Aka Chroutrud) - Wife of Charles Martel
- b.2 APR 742 in Ingelheim,Rheinhessen,Hesse-Darmstadt d.28 JAN 814 in ,Aachen,Rhineland,Prussia
- b.~ 0690 in Of,Laon,Asine,France d.> 0747 in Laon,Aisne,France
- b.0720 in ,Laon,Aisne,France d.12 JUL 783 in ,Choisy,Haute-Savoie,France
- b.~ 0695 in Of,Laon,Asine,France d.BET 720/797 in Y
- b.Aug 0778 in Casseneuil,Lot-Et-Garonne,France d.20 JUN 840 in Near,Ingelheim,Rhinehessen,Hesse
- d.04 Abr 783
- b.0710 in Of,Swabia,Germany d.> 0779 in France a Prisoner (Last King of the Lombards)
- b.0758 in Aachen,Rhineland,Prussia d.30 APR 783 in Thionville,Moselle,France
- b.< 0709 in Of,Allemania d.> 0724
- b.~ 0710 in Aachen,Prussia d.0798 in Germany
- b.~ 0705
- b.13 JUN 823 in Frankfurt-am-Maine,Hessen-Nassau,Prussia d.6 OCT 877 in Brides-les-Bains,near Mt. Cenis,France in the French Alps
- b.<722> in <Altdorf,Bavaria> d.0780
- b.0750 in Altdorf,Bavaria
- b.0723 in Swabia,Germany
- b.~ 0776 in Of,Altdorf,,Bavaria d.~ 0830
- b.0710 in Of,Swabia,Germany d.> 0779 in France a Prisoner (Last King of the Lombards)
- b.<826> in <Of,Aachen,Rhineland,Prussia>
- b.~ 0710 in Aachen,Prussia d.0798 in Germany
- b.~ 0800 in Altdorf,Bavaria d.19 Abr 0843 in Tours,Indre-Et-Loire,France
- b.~ 0726 in <Saxony,Germany> d.> 0775
- b.~ 0756 in <Of,,Normandy,France> d.~ 0813
- b.~ 0735 in Saxony,Germany d. in Y
- b.0780 in Saxony,Germany d.0833
- b.~ 0732 in Saxony,Germany d.0807 in Enger
- b. in <Of,,Normandy,France> d. in Y
- b.0799 in Jutland,Denmark
- b.1 SEP 846 in ,,,France d.10 APR 879 in Compiaegne,Neustria
- b.~ 0785 in in Wormsgau d.< 0834 in Wormangau
- b.~ 0820 in France d.25 AUG 866 in Anjou,France
- b.~ 0795 in <,Orleans,Loiret,France>
- b.~ 0866 in Bourgogne,France d.15 JUN 923 in Soissons,France
- b.0765 in Upper,Alsace,France d.~ 0839 in France
- b.~ 0814 in Tours,Indre-et-Loire,France,France d.20 MAR 851 in Anjou
- b.~ 0769 in Of,Tours,Indre Et Loire,France d.> 0837 in France
- b.0810 in Orleans,France (aka Eudes,Count of Paris) d.0898 in Paris,France (aka The Northman King of France)
- b.~ 0789 in Rheinland,Prussia d.15 FEB 824 in France
- b.0740 in Orleans
- b.~ 0775 in <Of,,Prussia> d.0837
- b.> 0795 in Orleans d.> 0865 in France
- b.27 SEP 830 in Orleans,Loiret,France d.6 OCT 869 in in StDenis,France
- b.~ 0745 in Paris,France d.0816
- b.~ 0770 in ,Paris,Seine,France d.0816
- b.<745> in <Paris,France>
- b.< 0802 in Paris,France
- b.2 APR 742 in Ingelheim,Rheinhessen,Hesse-Darmstadt d.28 JAN 814 in ,Aachen,Rhineland,Prussia
- b.0774 in Pavie,,Italy d.~ 0810
- b.0758 in Aachen,Rhineland,Prussia d.30 APR 783 in Thionville,Moselle,France
- b.0810 in France (aka Theodorade) d.> 0825 in Orleans,France (wife of King Odo)
- b.<781> in <Of,Orleans,Loiret,France>
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"The Stammerer" and Ansgarde Princess Of were married in a religious ceremony about 0858 in ,,,France. They had two sons and three daughters, named Louis III King Of, Carloman King Of, Adelaide, Hedwige of and Gisaele Princess Of.
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Children
Louis III King Of France
Louis III King Of was born about 0863 in ,,,France. He died in St Denis,,France.
Gisaele Princess Of France
Gisaele Princess Of was born about 0864 in ,,,France. She died about 0895.
Carloman King Of France
Carloman King Of was born about 0866 in Of,,Aix-La-Chappelle,Austrasia. He was buried in Saint Denis,,France.
"The Stammerer" and Adelaide were married in a religious ceremony in 0875. They had a son and two daughters, named Charles III "The Simple" King of, Ermentrude de and Kunigonde de.
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Children
Kunigonde de France
Kunigonde de was born in 0886 in <Of,Aachen,Rheinland,Prussia>. She died at the age of 37 in 0923.
Charles III "The Simple" King of France
Charles III "The Simple" King of was born in ,France.3 He died in Peronne,Somme,France. He was buried in St. Fursi,Peronne,Somme,France.3
1 Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on @ Louis II
2 Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on @ Louis II
3 Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700: the lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcom of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and some of their descendants
7th Edition, with additions and corrections by Walter Lee @ 148-17
Further sources/citations:
Ancestral File (R), Ancestral File (R)
2 Encyclopedia Britannica, Treatise on @ Louis II
3 Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700: the lineage of Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcom of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and some of their descendants
7th Edition, with additions and corrections by Walter Lee @ 148-17
Further sources/citations:
Ancestral File (R), Ancestral File (R)
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