William II de Say , of Sawbridgeworth 
William II de was born about 1133 in Saham, Norfolk, England. William II de's father was William I de Say , of Sawbridgeworth, Sir and his mother was Beatrice de Mandeville. His paternal grandmother was Hawise de Clare. He had a brother named Geoffrey I de. He was the older of the two children. He had two half-brothers named William and Richard II. He died before August 1st, 1177 in Kimbolton, St Neots, Huntingdonshire, England (dspm).General Notes
William, of Kimbolton, Hunts, and Saham, Norfolk; dspm just prior to 1 Aug 1177. [Burke's Peerage]
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WILLIAM DE SAY II, 1st son and heir, first appears as a party to the confirmation by his father of Hugh de Beauchamp's grant to St. Neot's, perhaps towards the end of 1144. Between 1150 and 1160 he entered into an agreement with the monks of Ramsey to grant them rents in Norfolk and elsewhere, his mother Beatrice assenting. He paid scutage in 1161-62 under Cambs and Hunts. In 1166 he returned his Carta under Hunts. He accounted in 1167-68 under Hunts for 34 s. in respect of the aid to marry the King's daughter, and, about 1175 was witness to a charter in favour of Buckland Priory. The name and parentage of his wife are unknown. He died s.p.m. shortly before 1 August 1177. [Complete Peerage XI:465, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
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William d. v. p., leaving two daus., viz., Beatrix, who m. Geoffrey FitzPiers, and Maud, m. to William de Bocland. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 476, Saye, or Say, Barons Saye]
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Ancestor Pedigree Chart
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- b.~ 1106 in Sawbridgeworth, Bishop's Stortford, Hertfordshire, England d.>Aug 1144 in Killed attacking Burwell Castle, Cambridgeshire, England
- b.< 1066 in Clare, Suffolk, England d.< 1117 in of Tonbridge, Kent, England & Cardigan, Wales
- b.~ 1089 in Clare, Suffolk, England
- b.1030 in Clermont, Beauvais, Oise, Picardy, France d.1101 in Clermont, Beauvais, Oise, Picardy, France
- b.~ 1072 in Clermont, Beauvais, Oise, France
- b.1045 in Montdidier, Somme, France d.1110 in Clermont, Beauvais, Oise, Picardy, France
- b.~ 1133 in Saham, Norfolk, England d.<01 Aug 1177 in Kimbolton, St Neots, Huntingdonshire, England (dspm)
- b.1105 in Manneville, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France d.<19 Apr 1197 in Rickling, Essex, England
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They had two daughters named Maud de and Beatrix de.
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Children
Maud de Say
Maud de was born about 1155 in Kimbolton, Norfolk, England. She died before March 28th, 1222.
Beatrix de Say
Beatrix de was born about 1160 in Kimbolton, St Neots, Huntingdonshire, England. She died before April 19th, 1197.
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