General Notes

Geoffrey de Say, 1st Lord (Baron) Say(e), so created by writ of summons to Parliament 26 July 1313; born 1379 or 1281; called up for military service against the Scots 1310 and 1311; married Idonia/Idoine de Leyburn, daughter and through her issue ultimate heir of 1st Lord (Baron) Leyburn, and died by 3 March 1321/2.  [Burke's Peerage]

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Geoffrey de Say III, 1st Lord Say, aged 14 in 1295, proved age on or shortly bef. 15 Feb 1302/3, 1st Lord Say, d. by 3 Mar 1321/2.  Had three daughters: Katherine, m. John, 3rd Lord St. John of Lageham; Juliane, m. Sir Roger de Northwode; Isabel, m. John de Chaumpaigne; and heir Geoffrey, all by wife Idonea, living 1321/2, daughter of William de Leyburn, Lord Leyburn, by Juliane, daughter & heir of Sir Henry de Sandwich.  (This Idonea was NOT a daughter & coheir of Roger de Vipont.) [Magna Charta Sureties]

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BARONY OF SAY (I)

GEOFFREY DE SAY III, son and heir, proved his age on or shortly before 15 February 1302/3. On 28 October 1304 he was granted protection, as going beyond the seas with Edward Prince of Wales and Earl of Chester; on 22 March 1306/7 he was ordered to be at London on the morrow of Holy Trinity to set out with Edward Prince of Wales for France. In 1308 he was summoned to attend the Coronation with his consort in the train of the King and Queen. He was summoned to serve against the Scots in 1310 and 1311. In 1311 he was involved in a dispute with the Sheriff of Kent as to his liability for the construction and repair of Rochester bridge. He was summoned to Parliament from 26 July 1313 to 14 May 1321 by writs directed Galfr[id]o de Say, whereby he is held to have become LORD SAY. On 20 September 1313 the Justices in Eyre in Kent were ordered to respite until the quinzaine of Michaelmas all matters touching Juliane de Leyburn, Henry de Leyburn, and Geoffrey de Say. He was again summoned to serve against the Scots in every year from 1314 to 1319. In 1315 he was requested to continue in the northern parts during the winter campaign, and to repair to the King on 1 November.

In 1318, a commission issued to deliver the gaol of the castle of Canterbury of Juliane de Leyburn, Geoffrey de Say and others for receiving Robert Coleman atte Mersh, an outlaw in Kent for divers felonies (n). In October he obtained his writ for scutage. On 21 April 1321 he was requested to co-operate in appeasing disturbances and to refrain from attending any illegal confederacies or assemblies; and in November 1321 he was ordered to abstain from the meeting of the " Good Peers" to be held at Doncaster, illegally convened by the Earl of Lancaster. In the same month a Commission of oyer and terminer issued to him with two others to try the persons who had defended Leeds Castle, Kent, against the Queen. On 6 February 1321/2 he was enjoined to raise as many men-at-arms and foot-soldiers as he could, and to hold himself in readiness to march with them to the King and later to appear with his forces at Coventry on 28 February to march against the rebels or adherents of the Earl of Lancaster.

He married Idonia, daughter of William (DE LEYBURN), LORD LEYBURN, by Juliane, daughter and heir of Sir Henry DE SANDWICH. He died before 3 March 1321/2. Idonia had Birling and Burharn assigned to her in dower 15 April 1322. Geoffrey had before his death settled his manor of West Greenwich on her and himself, with successive remainders to their sons Geoffrey, Roger and Ralph and the heirs of their bodies (g). [Complete Peerage XI:474-5, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

(n) In view of Geoffrey's connection with the Leyburns by his marriage, it seems possible that the Geoffrey who was in Canterbury Castle was the subject of this article.

(g) He had also 3 daughters, Katharine, who m. John (afterwards 3rd Lord St. John of Lageham), son of John de St. John of Lageham); Juliane, who m. Sir Roger de Northwode; and Isabel or Elizabeth, who m. John de Chaumpaigne.