General Notes

In attempting to learn who Alice's parents were, I have found one record on Automated Family pedigrees #1, Automated Archives, Inc., CD100, that says she was the daughter of Richard de Lucy and Rose. There is also a Richard de Lucy who m. Roesia on the same CD. Sir Bernard Burke [Dormant and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 336, Lucy, Barons Lucy], regarding issue of Richard de Lucy and Rohais (Roesia on CD 100) names only two daughters of this couple, Maude who m. 1st Walter FitzRobert, and 2ndly, Richard de Ripariis; and Rohais who m. 1st, Fulbert de Dovor, and 2ndly, Richard de Chilham. In that same work, under Umfravill, Burke does not list this Odinel nor a wife Alice de Lucy.

John Burke, in History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland, Vol. I, R. Bentley, London, 1834-1838, p. 214, Senhouse, of Nether Hall, states, "William de Sevenhouse m. a daughter and co-heir of Lucy. Amongst the archives of the family of Senhouse is still preserved a deed of conveyance from Alice de Lucy, daughter and co-heir of Richard de Lucy, of Egremont, by Ada de Morville, his wife, to her second son, Sir John de Lucy, high sheriff of the county of Cumberland for two years, 31st Edward I [1303], and knight of the shire for the same county 34th of the same reign [1306], from whom, by his wife, Christian, descended the wife of this William Sevenhouse." It is obvious this Alice is not the daughter of Richard of Egremont and Ada de Morville. They had two daughters, Annabell (Mabel) and Alice, who both married brothers, Lambert and Alan de Multon, respectively, and that Alice had only one son, Thomas de Multon, known as Thomas de Lucie, and he m. Isabel de Bolteby. Furthermore, this Alice, born about 1144, could not have had a son who was living in the early 1300s.