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[SUSANNA KEENE.FTW]

W E Wightman, *The Lacy Family in England and Normandy,
1066-1194*,
genealogical chart following p 260.

From same, p 17, 19: "The honour of Pontefract is the name
later given to the
estates built up by the Lacy family, mainly by Ilbert I under
the first two Norman kings. In 1086 the bulk of these estates
were already to be found in
the south half of the West Riding of Yorkshire, held by Ilbert
I as tenant-in-chief direct of the king, though there was also
an appreciable quantity of land scattered over the counties of
Lincoln, Nottingham, Buckingham, Oxford, counties of Lincoln,
Nottingham, Buckingham, Oxford, Berkshire, and Surrey. .....
The military importance of this stretch of territory was
enormous."

From same, p 55: "The first holder of the honour of Pontefract
was Ilbert I
de Lacy, brother of the first lord of the honour of Weobley,
Walter I. Proof of their relationship comes from their estate
in NOrmandy. This single holding was held jointly by the
descendants of Ilbert I and Walter I by the Norman tenure of
parage, under which land was divided amongst the sons and
daughters whilst at the same time remaining a single fee. Had
it not been originally a family holding this tenure would not
have applied, and the details of the dissolution of the joint
fee show that the family link must have been via Ilbert and
Walter as sons of the same father. The senior branch of the
family was probably that of Ilbert of Pontefract. He followed
his Norman overlord into England, whereas Walter arrived in the
train of
William fitz Osbern, much as a younger son might do. In all
probability the
younger brother would have no obligation to follow his liege
lord outside
Normandy and thus might choose to attach himself to the most
convenient
leader he could find. An additional piece of evidence comes
from the grant
of twenty- two acres of land at Montmain to the nunnery of St.
Amand by
Emma, the mother of Ilbert de Lacy. She was categorically
described as
Ilbert's mother, to distinguish her from the abbess of St.
Amand, whose name
was also Emma. This implies either that Ilbert was the more
important of
the two brothers in Normandy, and under the rules of tenure by
parage
therefore the elder, or else that Walter was not Emma's son,
but a cousin.
As this would have been impossible, in view of the later
descent of the fee,
it is most likely that Ilbert was the elder. Little is known
about either
of the brothers. They were not, for example, amongst the
favoured few whose
participation at the battle of Hastings can be proved. Ilbert
I was
probably born not later than 1045, though this is little more
than a guess
based on the likely assumption that he came over in 1066, and
was enfeoffed
as a tenant of Bishop Odo soon afterward. He was still alive
shortly after
Odo's banishment on 14 November 1088. It is possible that he
was alive in
or soon after 1091, but he was undoubtedly dead by the end of
the reign of
Rufus, for by that time he had been succeeded by his son Robert
I. Little
more is known about his family. His wife's name was Hawise,
and that is the
total extent of information about her."

From same, p 58: "It has been frequently stated that the abbot
of Selby from
1096/7 to 1122/3 was Hugh de Lacy, son of Ilbert I. .....
There is no medieval
evidence that the surname of Abbot Hugh was 'de Lacy', even
though the
introduction and the index in the published edition of the
Selby cartulary
use it. The error can be traced to Burton, who committed it for
the first
time in 1758 [J. Burton, *Monastican Eboracense*, p 405].
Burton quoted as
his authority Dugdale's *Monasticon*, of nearly a century
earlier, but
Dugdale only called him Abbot Hugh, with no surname -- and no
pre-Reformation account adds any surname either. Hugh de Lacy,
as abbot of
Selby, is undoubtedly an eighteenth century promotion."

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