de Say, Beatrice

Birth Name de Say, Beatrice 1 2a 3a 4a 5a 6a
Also Known As De SAY, Beatrice 7a
Gramps ID I4781
Gender female
Age at Death 38 years, 3 months, 18 days

Events

Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Birth [E5867] 1159 Kimbolton, Norfolk, England  
3b 4b 5b
Death [E5868] 1197-04-19    
3c 4c 5c
Death [E5869] before 1197-04-19    
7b

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father de Say, William IV [I4782]1177
Mother of Scotland, Aufrica [I2584]
         de Say, Beatrice [I4781] 1159 1197-04-19
 
Father de Say, William IV [I4782]1177
         de Say, Beatrice [I4781] 1159 1197-04-19
 
Stepfather De SAY, William [I26207]about 1177-08-01
         de Say, Beatrice [I4781] 1159 1197-04-19

Families

    Family of Fitz Piers, Geoffrey and de Say, Beatrice [F4167]
Unknown Partner Fitz Piers, Geoffrey [I7184] ( * about 1162 + 1213-10-14 )
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
Fitz Geoffrey de Mandeville, Maud [I7408]1236-08-27
    Family of Earl of Essex, Geoffrey FitzPiers de Mandeville and de Say, Beatrice [F2239]
Married Husband Earl of Essex, Geoffrey FitzPiers de Mandeville [I4780] ( * BET. 1152 - 1162 + 1213-10-14 )
   
Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Marriage [E28884] before 1184/5-01-25 (Julian) Essex, England  
1a 2b 3d 8a 5d
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
Cts of Essex, Maude FitzGeoffrey de Mandeville [I3033]11771236-08-27
    Family of FITZ PIERS, Earl Of Essex, Geoffrey and de Say, Beatrice [F11687]
Married Husband FITZ PIERS, Earl Of Essex, Geoffrey [I26024] ( * 1165 + 1213-10-14 )
   
Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Marriage [E32455] before 1184/5-01-25 (Julian)    
7c
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
Fitz Geoffrey de Mandeville, Maud [I7408]1236-08-27

Narrative

[SUSANNA KEENE.FTW]

[MARSHALL.FTW]

SOURCE NOTES:
Cokayne, George Edward, Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great
Britain, and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant. Gloucester: A
Sutton, 1982.

Watney, Vernon James, The Wallop Family and their Ancestry, Oxford:John
Johnson, 1928. LDS Film#1696491 items 6-9.

Weis, Frederick L, Magna Charta Sureties 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
Charta and Some of Their Descendants. 4th Ed. Baltimore: Gen Pub Co, 1991.

Weis, Frederick Lewis, Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, 6th Edition,
Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1988.
SOURCE NOTES:
father: [Ref: CP V p117chart, Watney #401, Watney #883, Weis AR #97, Weis MC
#160]
SOURCE NOTES:
date: [Ref: Watney #401] before Apr 19 1197 [Ref: Weis MC #160]

Narrative

Records not imported into INDI (individual) Gramps ID I4781:

Line ignored as not understood Line 116502: 2 SOUR @S085410@
Skipped subordinate line Line 116503: 3 DATA
Skipped subordinate line Line 116504: 4 TEXT Date of Import: Aug 7, 2000
Line ignored as not understood Line 116507: 2 SOUR @S159427@
Skipped subordinate line Line 116508: 3 DATA
Skipped subordinate line Line 116509: 4 TEXT Date of Import: Sep 24, 2000

 

Attributes

Type Value Notes Sources
AFN AR:97-27sm, MC:160-3s
 
REFN 7943
 

Pedigree

  1. de Say, William IV [I4782]
    1. of Scotland, Aufrica [I2584]
      1. de Say, Beatrice
        1. Fitz Piers, Geoffrey [I7184]
          1. Fitz Geoffrey de Mandeville, Maud [I7408]
        2. Earl of Essex, Geoffrey FitzPiers de Mandeville [I4780]
          1. Cts of Essex, Maude FitzGeoffrey de Mandeville [I3033]
        3. FITZ PIERS, Earl Of Essex, Geoffrey [I26024]
          1. Fitz Geoffrey de Mandeville, Maud [I7408]

Ancestors

Source References

  1. Elmore, Lori (Garner): Elmore, Lorraine Ann "Lori" (Garner), Recipient: J.H. Garner, [S11155]
      • Page: no date/place, his 1st m
  2. Brian Tompsett, Dept of Computer Science: University of Hull Royal Database (England), Author Address: [S13227]
      • Page: d of William de Say, no mother
      • Page: no date/place
  3. Marlyn Lewis: Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell, Recipient: J.H. Garner, Author [S10339]
      • Page: d of Wm de Say & Anfrica of Scotland
      • Page: no date
      • Page: d bef given date
      • Page: no place
  4. Vernon James Watney: Wallop Family & Their Ancestry, Film: LDS Film#1696491 items [S13330]
      • Page: p 693
      • Page: p 693, no date
      • Page: p 693, d bef given date
  5. SUSANNA KEENE.FTW [S85410]
      • Source text:

        Date of Import: Aug 7, 2000

      • Source text:

        Date of Import: Aug 7, 2000

      • Source text:

        Date of Import: Aug 7, 2000

      • Source text:

        Date of Import: Aug 7, 2000

  6. charlemegne.FTW [S159427]
      • Source text:

        Date of Import: Sep 24, 2000

  7. MARSHALL.FTW [S346124]
      • Source text:

        Date of Import: Oct 31, 2000

      • Source text:

        Date of Import: Oct 31, 2000

      • Source text:

        Date of Import: Oct 31, 2000

  8. William Harry Turton: The Plantagenet Ancestry, Pages: 274 [S13093]
      • Page: p 137, no place