de St. Valerie, Maud de Haye

Birth Name de St. Valerie, Maud de Haye 1 2a
Also Known As de St. Valerie, Maud 3 4a
Gramps ID I0669
Gender female
Age at Death 55 years

Events

Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Birth [E0951] 1155    
1a 2b 4b
Death [E0952] 1210 Corfe Castle  
1b 5a 2c
Death [E0953] 1210    
4c

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father de St. Valerie, Reginald [I1615]1129
         de St. Valerie, Maud de Haye [I0669] 1155 1210
 
Stepfather de St. Valerie, Bernard IV [I8321]
Mother , Maud [I8673]
         de St. Valerie, Maud de Haye [I0669] 1155 1210

Families

    Family of Lord Bramber, William de Braose III and de St. Valerie, Maud de Haye [F0390]
Married Husband Lord Bramber, William de Braose III [I4556] ( * 1144 + 1211-08-09 )
   
Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Marriage [E28072]      
1 6a 2d
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
de Braose, Margaret [I0677]11771200-11-19
Lord Abergavenny, Reginald de Braose [I4113]11781228-06-09
    Family of de Braiose, William and de St. Valerie, Maud de Haye [F4257]
Unknown Partner de Braiose, William [I7311] ( * 1153 + 1211-08-09 )
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
de Braiose, Reginald [I7309]
de Braose, Margaret [I0677]11771200-11-19

Narrative

[SUSANNA KEENE.FTW]

Starved to death by KIng John.

starved.

 

she brought her husband many castles in the Welsh Marches.

 

 

 

 

In "Ancestral Roots" I find that Maud de St. Valerie, wife of
William de Braiose (177-6), was killed by King John by being
walled up with her young son William in her castle in 1210.
Does anyone know the story behind her death?

Essentially, in about 1206-7 John, for reasons unknown, started
to persecute William de Briouze and others. Over the next
several years things went from bad to worse. In 1208, John
demanded hostages from William and Matilda (Maud) apparently
said that she wouldn't deliver up her sons to John as he had
murdered his nephew Arthur. After this things got really bad
and William and his family were forced to flee to Ulster
(William was Lord of Limerick). In spring 1210 John prepared an
expedition to Ireland and Matilda fled with her sons to
Scotland (William was in Wales at this time). Matilda and the
children were captured by a Scots lord and handed over to John.
Matilda and the eldest son (William IV) were imprisoned, and
were never seen again. The common report, recorded in several
monastic annals, was that they had been starved to death.

For a fuller version of this I would suggest you read :
King John by W.L. Warren, Eyre Methuen, 1978
The Feudal Kingdom of England 1042-1216 by Frank Barlow,
Longman, 1985[charlemegne.FTW]

Murdered by King John who had her walled up alive in her castl e walls with her young son William.

Apparently her 'offence' was that when the king's messengers cam e to Maud to collect her sons as hostages, she said she would no t hand her sons over to John, the murderer of his own nephew Art hur.

Narrative

Records not imported into INDI (individual) Gramps ID I0669:

Line ignored as not understood Line 9663: 2 SOUR @S085410@
Skipped subordinate line Line 9664: 3 DATA
Skipped subordinate line Line 9665: 4 TEXT Date of Import: Aug 7, 2000
Line ignored as not understood Line 9668: 2 SOUR @S159427@
Skipped subordinate line Line 9669: 3 DATA
Skipped subordinate line Line 9670: 4 TEXT Date of Import: Sep 24, 2000

 

Attributes

Type Value Notes Sources
REFN 10870
 

Pedigree

  1. de St. Valerie, Reginald [I1615]
    1. de St. Valerie, Maud de Haye
      1. Lord Bramber, William de Braose III [I4556]
        1. de Braose, Margaret [I0677]
        2. Lord Abergavenny, Reginald de Braose [I4113]
      2. de Braiose, William [I7311]
        1. de Braiose, Reginald [I7309]
        2. de Braose, Margaret [I0677]

Ancestors

Source References

  1. Marlyn Lewis: Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell, Recipient: J.H. Garner, Author [S10339]
      • Page: b abt 1148
      • Page: no place
  2. SUSANNA KEENE.FTW [S85410]
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        Date of Import: Aug 7, 2000

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        Date of Import: Aug 7, 2000

  3. TITLE [S142115]
  4. charlemegne.FTW [S159427]
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        Date of Import: Sep 24, 2000

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        Date of Import: Sep 24, 2000

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        Date of Import: Sep 24, 2000

  5. Thomas B. Costain: The Pageant of England The Magnificent Century [S13072]
      • Page: p 298, no date
  6. Ancestors of Deacon Edward Converse [S10385]
      • Page: p 39