Count Of Flanders, Baldwin I Bras De Fer

Birth Name Count Of Flanders, Baldwin I Bras De Fer 1a 1b
Gramps ID I22128
Gender male

Events

Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Death [E21632] 879 Orras  
1c 1d

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father Count Of Harlebec, Odoacre [I22928]about 862
         Count Of Flanders, Baldwin I Bras De Fer [I22128] 879

Families

    Family of Count Of Flanders, Baldwin I Bras De Fer and , Judith [F9561]
Married Wife , Judith [I22129] ( * about 844 + after 870 )
   
Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Marriage [E31304] 862    
1e
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
Count Of Flanders, Baldwin II The Bald [I22126]about 865917/8-01-02 (Julian)
    Family of Count Of Flanders, Baldwin I Bras De Fer and , Judith [F11575]
Married Wife , Judith [I25757] ( * about 844 + after 870 )
   
Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Marriage [E32397] 862    
1f
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
Count Of Flanders, Baldwin II The Bald [I22126]about 865917/8-01-02 (Julian)

Narrative

[MARSHALL.FTW]

SOURCE NOTES:
Moriarty, George Andrews, Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III And Queen
Philippa. Salt Lake: Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, 1985. LDS
Film#0441438. nypl#ARF-86-2555.

Paget, Gerald, The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of
Wales. London: Charles Skilton Ltd, 1977. Nypl ARF+ 78-835.

Previte-Orton, C. W., The Shorter Cambridge Medieval History, Cambridge:
University Press, 1952. Chatham 940.1PRE.

Redlich, Marcellus Donald R Von, Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor
Charlemagne's Descdenants. Order of the Crown of Charlemagne, 1941.

Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Euroopaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte
der europaischen Staaten, New Series, Marburg: J.A. Stargardt, 1978-.

Tapsell, R. F., Monarchs, Rulers, Dynasties and Kingdoms of the World. New
York: Facts on File Publications, 1983.

Taylor, Nathaniel, Wife of Odoacre/Odoacer, Count of Flanders, posting to
GEN-MEDIEVAL, Jun1 1 1998. Author address: ntaylor@@fas,harvard,edu.

Turton, William Harry, Plantagenet Ancestry. Baltimore, Genealogical Pub Co,
1968. Originally published London: 1928. NYPL ARF 83-3293.

Watney, Vernon James, The Wallop Family and their Ancestry, Oxford:John
Johnson, 1928. LDS Film#1696491 items 6-9.

Weir, Alison, Britain's Royal Families, The Complete Genealogy, London: Bodley
Head, 1989. Nypl ARF 89-26908

Weis, Frederick Lewis, Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, 6th Edition,
Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1988.
RESEARCH NOTES:
Count of Flanders [Ref: Weis AR #162]

862: Count of Flanders [Ref: Tapsell p198]

The identity of Baldwin's father as one "Ocoacer" is supported only by two
notices in a minor set of Flemish annals (the _Annales Blandinienses_, MGH SS
5:20-34) of eleventh-centry confection; othing further is known of this person
(nor his wife). His attribution as a count of Herlebec comes only from the
twelfth-century genealogical MS of St.-Bertin (MGH SS 9:305), which also adds
*his* father Ingelrannus and grandfather Lidric, "Count of Herlebec" (also
attested only in the _Annales Blandinienses_)... Most modern genealogists
agree that, without any corroboration, these two eleventy- and twelfth-centry
notices of them cannot be taken as proof of their existence or their relation
to count Baldwin. Cf ES 2:5, etc., where the line starts with Baldwin [Ref:
Nat Taylor 6/1/98]
SOURCE NOTES:
father: [Ref: Turton p19] dotted line on chart [Ref: Moriarty p14]
SOURCE NOTES:
date: [Ref: CMH p337, ES II #1, ES II #5, ES II #78, Moriarty p14, Moriarty
p16, Paget p5, Redlich p235, Tapsell p198, Watney #207, Watney #408, Weis AR
#162], place: [Ref: Moriarty p14]

Attributes

Type Value Notes Sources
AFN ES:II-5, AR:162-16s, 9GCX-C5
 

Pedigree

  1. Count Of Harlebec, Odoacre [I22928]
    1. Count Of Flanders, Baldwin I Bras De Fer
      1. , Judith [I22129]
        1. Count Of Flanders, Baldwin II The Bald [I22126]
      2. , Judith [I25757]
        1. Count Of Flanders, Baldwin II The Bald [I22126]

Ancestors

Source References

  1. MARSHALL.FTW [S346124]
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