Of Hungary, Agatha

Birth Name Of Hungary, Agatha 1a 1b
Gramps ID I21866
Gender female
Age at Death more than about 41 years

Events

Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Birth [E21274] about 1025 Bavaria, Germany  
1c 1d
Death [E21275] after 1066    
1e 1f

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father Margrave Of Westfriesland, Liudolf (Ludwig) [I21867]about 10081038-04-23
Mother , Gertrudis [I22463]1077-07-21
         Of Hungary, Agatha [I21866] about 1025 after 1066

Families

    Family of , Edward Athling The Exile and Of Hungary, Agatha [F9255]
Married Husband , Edward Athling The Exile [I21865] ( * 1016 + 1057 )
   
Event Date Place Description Notes Sources
Marriage [E31090] 1043    
1g
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
Of Scotland, St. Margaret [I21864]10451093-11-16

Narrative

[MARSHALL.FTW]

SOURCE NOTES:
DeVajay, Szabolcs, Agatha, Mother of Saint Margaret Queen of Scotland,
Duquesne Review, vol 7 no 2, Spring 1962, p71-87.

Faris, David, and Douglas Richardson, The Parents of Agatha, Wife of Edward
the Exile, NEHGR v152 (Apr 1998) pp224-235.

Farmerie, Todd A, Agatha of (?), posting to mailing list GEN-MEDIEVAL, Apr 30
1998. Author address taf2@@po.cwru.edu.

Holloway, Naomi D, The Genealogy of Mary Wentworth, Who Became the Wife of
William Brewster, Revised Edition, October 1969. LDS Film#1738313 item#5

Jette, Rene, Is the Mystery of the Origin of Agatha, Wife of Edward the Exile,
Finally Solved?, NEHGR v150 (Oct 1996), pp417-32.

Moriarty, George Andrews, Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III And Queen
Philippa. Salt Lake: Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, 1985. LDS
Film#0441438. nypl#ARF-86-2555.

Paget, Gerald, The Lineage and Ancestry of H.R.H. Prince Charles, Prince of
Wales. London: Charles Skilton Ltd, 1977. Nypl ARF+ 78-835.

Redlich, Marcellus Donald R Von, Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor
Charlemagne's Descdenants. Order of the Crown of Charlemagne, 1941.

Schwennicke, Detlev, ed., Euroopaische Stammtafeln: Stammtafeln zur Geschichte
der europaischen Staaten, New Series, Marburg: J.A. Stargardt, 1978-.

Watney, Vernon James, The Wallop Family and their Ancestry, Oxford:John
Johnson, 1928. LDS Film#1696491 items 6-9.

Weis, Frederick L, Magna Charta Sureties 1215: The Barons Named in the Magna
Charta and Some of Their Descendants. 4th Ed. Baltimore: Gen Pub Co, 1991.

Weis, Frederick Lewis, Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists, 6th Edition,
Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1988.

Wilson, Alan B, Ancestry of Henry II, posting to GEN-MEDIEVAL Mar 27 1997,
author address abwilson@@uclink2.berkeley.edu.
RESEARCH NOTES:
Anglo-Saxon Chroicle claims she was a relative of Emperor Henry. Florent
of Worcester says she was the daughter of a brother of Emperor Henry, and
William of Malmesbury that she was the sister of the Queen of Hungary.
Orderic Vital, Geoffroy Gaimar, and Aelred of Rievaulx all claim that she was
the daughter of the King of Hungary [Ref: Jette Agatha p420]

While on the continent (probably in Russia) he married Agatha, called by some
sources niece of Emperor Henry (whether this was Henry II or Henry III is not
specified in the origial source), but by others kinswoman of the King of
Hungary. Various modern interpretations include that she was daughter of St.
Stephen of Hungary (by Gisela, sister of Emperor Henry II), that she was
daughter of Bruno of Augsburg (brother of Henry II), that she was daughter of
Liudolph of Brunswick (half-brother of Henry III), or that she was daughter of
Yaroslav I of Russia (and hence sister-in-law of Andrew, King of Hungary).
The first two can be readily dismissed. The latter two are still being hotly
contested.
Stephen and Gisela: 1) contemporary records make it clear that Stephen
d.s.p.s, and his immediate heirs were a nephew, son of a sister, who
interhited in spite of being a foreigner, and a brother-in-law, husband of
Stephen's sister. In other words, the chances of there having been a daughter
and son-in-law running around who neer were put forward is slim. 2) As best
can be determined, Edward never set foot in Hungary until after Stephen had
died, and when he did so it was a friend of a rival branch of the royal
family. 3) the latin used to describe the relationship to EMperor Henry is
specific for "uncle on the father's side", and this would not apply.
Bruno of Augsburg: No evidence that he was ever married, no evidence that
he ever had children, any child born before he bacame Bishop would have been
too old to have had son Edgar when he was born.
Bruno of Brunswick: Vajay's argument was that the "uncle Henry" source does
not specify Henry II. Henry II had no acceptable siblings anyhow (see above).
Henry III had no brothers, but he did have three half-brothers. Bruno is the
only one old enough to have possibly been father of Agatha. Henry had a
daughter married to a King of Hungary, explaining that kinship. The biggest
argument against it is that while the chronology is possible, it is very
tight, bumping both Bruno and his mother earlier than the previous concensus
in order to make it possible.
Jaraslav: Jette argues that 1) later, but perhaps better informed
sources make her daughter of a Russian ruler. 2) Edward was a relative nobody
at the Russian court at the time (just another exile, along with the princes
of Norway and Hungary), and hardly a prime target for an Emperor's neice. 3)
Andrew, later King of Hungary, who Edward accompanied to Hungary, was another
son-in-law to Yaroslav, explaining the reported kinship to the Hungarian
royals. 4) the name of Agatha herself, of her daughter Christina, and her
grandchildren David and Alexander, would be innovations for a german family,
but would be more in keeping with the neo-eastern christian Russians. The
last is too new to have been thoroughly hashed out, and followup discussion is
still appearing in the genealogical literature. [Ref: Farmerie 4/30/98]
SOURCE NOTES:
date: abt 1020/5 [Ref: Moriarty p31] abt 1025 [Ref: DeVajay p84], place: [Ref:
Wilson 3/27/97], parents: [Ref: DeVajay p84, Wilson 3/27/97], father: [Ref:
Faris Agatha]
RESEARCH NOTES:
parents: Jaroslav I of Kiev & Ingegarde of Sweden [Ref: Jette Agatha p424],
father: Bruno Gf v Mittelfriesland [Ref: ES II #78] Henry II Emperor of
Germany [Ref: Holloway p18] probably Bruno of Bavaria Bishop of Augsburg
brother of Henry II [Ref: Paget p56, Paget p8]
SOURCE NOTES:
date: after 1066 [Ref: DeVajay p84, Moriarty p31]

Attributes

Type Value Notes Sources
AFN AR:1-21s, MC:161-7s, 9HMF-HN
 

Pedigree

  1. Margrave Of Westfriesland, Liudolf (Ludwig) [I21867]
    1. , Gertrudis [I22463]
      1. Of Hungary, Agatha
        1. , Edward Athling The Exile [I21865]
          1. Of Scotland, St. Margaret [I21864]

Ancestors

Source References

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