- b.1050 in Vermandois,Normandy,France d.18 Oct 1101 in Tarsus,Asia Minor
- b.1081 in Vermandois,France d.13 FEB 1130/1131 in St Nicaise,Meulan,D-Sens,France
- b.~ 1032 in Vermandois,Normandy,France d.1080 in France
- b.~ 1050 in Valois (now Oise),Picardy,France d.23 Sep 1120 in Vermandois,Normandy,France
- b.~ 1032 in Valois (now Oise),France