- d.> 1130
- d.> 1172
- d.> 1147
- b.BET 1140 AND 1170 in Heimbach, North Rhine-Westphalia, Preussen d.1217
- b.~ 1185 d.UNKNOWN
- b.~ 1091 in Wassenberg, Rheinland, Prussia d.02 Oct 1131 in Zutphen, Gelderland, Netherlands
- d.> 1126
- d.UNKNOWN
- b.~ 1110 in Julich, Rheinland, Prussia d.1176
- b.~ 1145 in Julich, Rheinland, Prussia d.> 1190