[2901027.ged] [2762884.ged] [2759404.ged] [2751731.ged] [2722902.ged] TITL geddown.ged REPO CALN MEDI Other DATA T EXT Date of Imp ort: Oct 17, 20 03 TITL geddown.ged REPO CAL N MEDI Other D ATA TEXT Date o f Import: Oct 17 , 2003 TITL geddown.ged RE PO CALN MEDI Ot her DATA TEXT D ate of Import: Oc t 17, 2003[geddown.ged] GIVN Reginald (Ric hard?) De SURN Or val TITL emsuggs. ged DATA TITL 264584 7.ged DATA TITL 2 657668.ged DATA T ITL 2659833.ged DA TA TITL 2667856.ge d DATA TITL 267116 9.ged DATA TITL 26 80041.ged DATA TIT L 2684272.ged R EPO @@R500221903@@ DAT A TITL 2687954.ged REPO @@R500221902@@ DA TA TITL emsug gs.ged DATA TITL 264 5847.ged DATA TITL 2657668.ged DATA TIT L 2659833.ge d DATA TITL 2667856.g ed DATA TITL 267116 9.ged DATA TITL 26800 41.ged D ATA TITL 2684272.ged R EPO @@R500221903@@ DATA TITL 2687954.ged REPO @@R50022 1902@@ DATA DATE 11 Oct 2002 TITL emsuggs.ged DATA TITL 2645847.ged DATA TITL 2657668.ged DATA T ITL 2659833.ged DATA TITL 2667856.ged DATA TITL 2 671169.ged DATA TITL 268 0041.ged DATA TITL 2 684272.ged REPO @@R50022 1903 @@ DATA TITL 2687954.ged REPO @@R500221902@@ DATA [2687954.ged] [2684272 .ge d] [2680041.ged] [2671169 .ged] [2667856.ged] [ 2659833.ged] [2657668.ged ] [264 5847.ged] REFN : em s-jw [emsu ggs.ged] Th e r eal difficulty lies i n the name of Mabel's fa t he r. Th e only Rainald d' Orval who so far as can be seen was seigne ur of O r val witnessed a charter o f Robe rt Curthose bet wee n 1101 a nd 1105 made gi fts to Lessay reco rded in a later n o tificati on. T he full t ext of the la tter shows Rainald to h av e had a son H ugh w ho succe eded him an d who was i n turn s u cceeded by his s on William, whi c h last was in pos sessi on be fo re 1151, sinc e a gift of hi s toLessay wa s con firmed by G eoffre y, Duke o f Normandy and Co unt of Anjou. This Willia m had a son Ri chard, who , with h is father, witness ed a c ha r ter of Will iam and Ro bert de St. John f o r L a Luzerne in 116 2. Wil lia m d'Orval se ems to have died at some date bef or e Michaelmas 1 179, since h i s lands we re in the King's han d from then to the end of the yea r. As the l and sthen pass ed to Adam de Po rt and his wife, Ri chard must h ave predecea se d his father. A Rainald d' Orv al rende rs account a t the N or man Exche quer at Michaelmas 1180, but in the " pre posi turs " of Nonan court; a nd sinc e Orv al ha d by that time passed t o Mabe l and her husband he co uld not ha ve been her fat her . To sum up ; it is diff icult to see how Mabel's f athe r cou ld hav e been a Rainald d' Orv al and his nam e must remain unc erta in ; but the sugges tion may be haza rd ed that sh e may hav e been the daughter of R ichard, son of William d'Orval an d that th e "Regina ldus" of the "Histo r ia" may be a scriba l error for "Ricardus". [Complete Pe erage][geddown.ge d ] TITL geddown.ged REPO CALN ME DI Other DATA TEXT Date of Import: Oct 17, 2003 TITL geddown.ged REPO CALN MEDI Other DATA TEXT Date of Import: Oct 17, 2003 TITL geddown.ged REPO CALN MEDI Other DATA TEXT Date of Impo rt: Oct 17, 2003[geddown.ged] GIVN Re ginald (Richard?) De SURN Orval TITL e msug gs.ged DATA TITL 2645847.ged DA TA TITL 2657668.ged DATA TITL 265983 3.ged DATA TITL 2667856.ged DATA TIT L 2671169.ged DATA TITL 2680041.ged DATA TITL 2684272.ged REPO @@R500221903 @@ DATA TITL 2687954.ged REPO @@R500 221902@@ DATA TITL emsuggs.ged DATA TIT L 2645847.ged DATA TITL 2657668.ge d DATA TITL 2659833.ged DATA TITL 26678 56.ged DATA TITL 2671169.ged DAT A TITL 26 80041.ged DATA TITL 2684272.ged REPO @@R500221903@@ DATA TITL 268 7954.ged R EPO @@R500221902@@ DATA DATE 11 Oct 2002 TITL emsuggs.ged DATA T ITL 2645847. ged DATA TITL 2657668.ged DA TA TITL 2659833.ged DATA TITL 2 667856.ged DA TA TITL 2671169.ged DATA TI TL 2680041.ged DA