NSFX , founded the Abbey of Prun (720)
TYPE Book
AUTH Å or c:Weis, Frederick Lewis
PERI Ancestral Roots
EDTN 7th
PUBL Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, MD (1999)
TYPE Book
AUTH Moriarty, G. Andrews
PERI Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III and Queen Phillippa
PUBL Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, Salt Lake City, UT, 1985
DETA A hardbound unedited ms in the author's hand, by one of the great American genealogists.
LOCA The original of the work is in the NEHGS, Boston, MA
TEXT 232
TYPE Book
AUTH Stuart, Roderick W.
PERI Royalty for Commoners
EDTN 3d
PUBL Genealogical Publishing co., Inc, Baltimore, MD (1998)
ISB 0-8063-1561-X
TEXT 214-44
DATE 30 MAY 2000
EDUC founded Prum 721
RELI Sources: O'shea/Charlemagne qvcrom: "Richard Smith" <ras52@cam.ac.uk>Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medievalSubject: Ancestors of CharlemagneDate: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 15:28:51 -0000In my database I have
the following line connecting Charlemagneto thepreceeding Merovingian dynasty:1. Theuderic III, King of the Franks. d 691.2. Bertha. mar Martin, Count of Laon.3. C[h]aribert, Count of Laon.
mar Bertrada. d 747.4. Bertrada of Laon. mar Pepin III, King of the Franks. d783.5. Charlemagne, Emperor of the Romans. b 744. d 814.Unfortunately, I haven't made a note of the source of this
line.I think I have seen it mentioned on this newsgroup that thereare nodocumented descents from the Merovingians, and I can certainlysee reasonswhy Charlemagne (or his sucessors) might want to
claim descentfrom theMerovingians. Anyway, can anyone confirm any of this line?Thanks,Richard.--Richard SmithClare College,Cambridge.From: "Todd A. Farmerie" <taf2@po.cwru.edu>Newsgroups:
soc.genealogy.medievalSubject: Re: Ancestors of CharlemagneDate: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 19:39:44 -0500Organization: Case Western Reserve University> > In my database I have the following line
connectingCharlemagne to the> preceeding Merovingian dynasty:> > 1. Theuderic III, King of the Franks. d 691.><snip>This was speculated by Chaume, but the predominating opinionthese daysis that
Bertrada (not Bertha) mother of Charibert, was daughterof aCount Hugobert. He was perhaps of Merovingian descent, but noancestryis currently known for him. (Oh, and by the way, I don't thinkthere
isany support for calling her husband Martin.)taf
HIST Y
FREN Y
DATE 14 MAR 1999
OCCU Merovingian Princess ...
founded Priem Abbey. Perhaps dau of Thierry I, K. of Austrasia, Neustria &
Burgundy - TOULOU.TXT (Compuserve)
OCCU Merovingian Princess ...
founded Priem Abbey. Perhaps dau of Thierry I, K. of Austrasia, Neustria &
Burgundy - TOULOU.TXT (Compuserve)
OCCU Merovingian Princess ...
founded Priem Abbey. Perhaps dau of Thierry I, K. of Austrasia, Neustria &
Burgundy - TOULOU.TXT (Compuserve)
NSFX , founded the Abbey of Prun (720)
TYPE Book
AUTH Å or c:Weis, Frederick Lewis
PERI Ancestral Roots
EDTN 7th
PUBL Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, MD (1999)
TYPE Book
AUTH Moriarty, G. Andrews
PERI Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III and Queen Phillippa
PUBL Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, Salt Lake City, UT, 1985
DETA A hardbound unedited ms in the author's hand, by one of the great American genealogists.
LOCA The original of the work is in the NEHGS, Boston, MA
TEXT 232
TYPE Book
AUTH Stuart, Roderick W.
PERI Royalty for Commoners
EDTN 3d
PUBL Genealogical Publishing co., Inc, Baltimore, MD (1998)
ISB 0-8063-1561-X
TEXT 214-44
DATE 30 MAY 2000
EDUC founded Prum 721
RELI Sources: O'shea/Charlemagne qvcrom: "Richard Smith" <ras52@cam.ac.uk>Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medievalSubject: Ancestors of CharlemagneDate: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 15:28:51 -0000In my database I have
the following line connecting Charlemagneto thepreceeding Merovingian dynasty:1. Theuderic III, King of the Franks. d 691.2. Bertha. mar Martin, Count of Laon.3. C[h]aribert, Count of Laon.
mar Bertrada. d 747.4. Bertrada of Laon. mar Pepin III, King of the Franks. d783.5. Charlemagne, Emperor of the Romans. b 744. d 814.Unfortunately, I haven't made a note of the source of this
line.I think I have seen it mentioned on this newsgroup that thereare nodocumented descents from the Merovingians, and I can certainlysee reasonswhy Charlemagne (or his sucessors) might want to
claim descentfrom theMerovingians. Anyway, can anyone confirm any of this line?Thanks,Richard.--Richard SmithClare College,Cambridge.From: "Todd A. Farmerie" <taf2@po.cwru.edu>Newsgroups:
soc.genealogy.medievalSubject: Re: Ancestors of CharlemagneDate: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 19:39:44 -0500Organization: Case Western Reserve University> > In my database I have the following line
connectingCharlemagne to the> preceeding Merovingian dynasty:> > 1. Theuderic III, King of the Franks. d 691.><snip>This was speculated by Chaume, but the predominating opinionthese daysis that
Bertrada (not Bertha) mother of Charibert, was daughterof aCount Hugobert. He was perhaps of Merovingian descent, but noancestryis currently known for him. (Oh, and by the way, I don't thinkthere
isany support for calling her husband Martin.)taf
HIST Y
FREN Y
DATE 14 MAR 1999
OCCU Merovingian Princess ...
founded Priem Abbey. Perhaps dau of Thierry I, K. of Austrasia, Neustria &
Burgundy - TOULOU.TXT (Compuserve)
OCCU Merovingian Princess ...
founded Priem Abbey. Perhaps dau of Thierry I, K. of Austrasia, Neustria &
Burgundy - TOULOU.TXT (Compuserve)
OCCU Merovingian Princess ...
founded Priem Abbey. Perhaps dau of Thierry I, K. of Austrasia, Neustria &
Burgundy - TOULOU.TXT (Compuserve)
NSFX , founded the Abbey of Prun (720)
TYPE Book
AUTH Å or c:Weis, Frederick Lewis
PERI Ancestral Roots
EDTN 7th
PUBL Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, MD (1999)
TYPE Book
AUTH Moriarty, G. Andrews
PERI Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III and Queen Phillippa
PUBL Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, Salt Lake City, UT, 1985
DETA A hardbound unedited ms in the author's hand, by one of the great American genealogists.
LOCA The original of the work is in the NEHGS, Boston, MA
TEXT 232
TYPE Book
AUTH Stuart, Roderick W.
PERI Royalty for Commoners
EDTN 3d
PUBL Genealogical Publishing co., Inc, Baltimore, MD (1998)
ISB 0-8063-1561-X
TEXT 214-44
DATE 30 MAY 2000
EDUC founded Prum 721
RELI Sources: O'shea/Charlemagne qvcrom: "Richard Smith" <ras52@cam.ac.uk>Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medievalSubject: Ancestors of CharlemagneDate: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 15:28:51 -0000In my database I have
the following line connecting Charlemagneto thepreceeding Merovingian dynasty:1. Theuderic III, King of the Franks. d 691.2. Bertha. mar Martin, Count of Laon.3. C[h]aribert, Count of Laon.
mar Bertrada. d 747.4. Bertrada of Laon. mar Pepin III, King of the Franks. d783.5. Charlemagne, Emperor of the Romans. b 744. d 814.Unfortunately, I haven't made a note of the source of this
line.I think I have seen it mentioned on this newsgroup that thereare nodocumented descents from the Merovingians, and I can certainlysee reasonswhy Charlemagne (or his sucessors) might want to
claim descentfrom theMerovingians. Anyway, can anyone confirm any of this line?Thanks,Richard.--Richard SmithClare College,Cambridge.From: "Todd A. Farmerie" <taf2@po.cwru.edu>Newsgroups:
soc.genealogy.medievalSubject: Re: Ancestors of CharlemagneDate: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 19:39:44 -0500Organization: Case Western Reserve University> > In my database I have the following line
connectingCharlemagne to the> preceeding Merovingian dynasty:> > 1. Theuderic III, King of the Franks. d 691.><snip>This was speculated by Chaume, but the predominating opinionthese daysis that
Bertrada (not Bertha) mother of Charibert, was daughterof aCount Hugobert. He was perhaps of Merovingian descent, but noancestryis currently known for him. (Oh, and by the way, I don't thinkthere
isany support for calling her husband Martin.)taf
HIST Y
FREN Y
DATE 14 MAR 1999
OCCU Merovingian Princess ...
founded Priem Abbey. Perhaps dau of Thierry I, K. of Austrasia, Neustria &
Burgundy - TOULOU.TXT (Compuserve)
OCCU Merovingian Princess ...
founded Priem Abbey. Perhaps dau of Thierry I, K. of Austrasia, Neustria &
Burgundy - TOULOU.TXT (Compuserve)
OCCU Merovingian Princess ...
founded Priem Abbey. Perhaps dau of Thierry I, K. of Austrasia, Neustria &
Burgundy - TOULOU.TXT (Compuserve)
NSFX , founded the Abbey of Prun (720)
TYPE Book
AUTH Å or c:Weis, Frederick Lewis
PERI Ancestral Roots
EDTN 7th
PUBL Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, MD (1999)
TYPE Book
AUTH Moriarty, G. Andrews
PERI Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III and Queen Phillippa
PUBL Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, Salt Lake City, UT, 1985
DETA A hardbound unedited ms in the author's hand, by one of the great American genealogists.
LOCA The original of the work is in the NEHGS, Boston, MA
TEXT 232
TYPE Book
AUTH Stuart, Roderick W.
PERI Royalty for Commoners
EDTN 3d
PUBL Genealogical Publishing co., Inc, Baltimore, MD (1998)
ISB 0-8063-1561-X
TEXT 214-44
DATE 30 MAY 2000
EDUC founded Prum 721
RELI Sources: O'shea/Charlemagne qvcrom: "Richard Smith" <ras52@cam.ac.uk>Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medievalSubject: Ancestors of CharlemagneDate: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 15:28:51 -0000In my database I have
the following line connecting Charlemagneto thepreceeding Merovingian dynasty:1. Theuderic III, King of the Franks. d 691.2. Bertha. mar Martin, Count of Laon.3. C[h]aribert, Count of Laon.
mar Bertrada. d 747.4. Bertrada of Laon. mar Pepin III, King of the Franks. d783.5. Charlemagne, Emperor of the Romans. b 744. d 814.Unfortunately, I haven't made a note of the source of this
line.I think I have seen it mentioned on this newsgroup that thereare nodocumented descents from the Merovingians, and I can certainlysee reasonswhy Charlemagne (or his sucessors) might want to
claim descentfrom theMerovingians. Anyway, can anyone confirm any of this line?Thanks,Richard.--Richard SmithClare College,Cambridge.From: "Todd A. Farmerie" <taf2@po.cwru.edu>Newsgroups:
soc.genealogy.medievalSubject: Re: Ancestors of CharlemagneDate: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 19:39:44 -0500Organization: Case Western Reserve University> > In my database I have the following line
connectingCharlemagne to the> preceeding Merovingian dynasty:> > 1. Theuderic III, King of the Franks. d 691.><snip>This was speculated by Chaume, but the predominating opinionthese daysis that
Bertrada (not Bertha) mother of Charibert, was daughterof aCount Hugobert. He was perhaps of Merovingian descent, but noancestryis currently known for him. (Oh, and by the way, I don't thinkthere
isany support for calling her husband Martin.)taf
HIST Y
FREN Y
DATE 14 MAR 1999
OCCU Merovingian Princess ...
founded Priem Abbey. Perhaps dau of Thierry I, K. of Austrasia, Neustria &
Burgundy - TOULOU.TXT (Compuserve)
OCCU Merovingian Princess ...
founded Priem Abbey. Perhaps dau of Thierry I, K. of Austrasia, Neustria &
Burgundy - TOULOU.TXT (Compuserve)
OCCU Merovingian Princess ...
founded Priem Abbey. Perhaps dau of Thierry I, K. of Austrasia, Neustria &
Burgundy - TOULOU.TXT (Compuserve)
NSFX , founded the Abbey of Prun (720)
TYPE Book
AUTH Å or c:Weis, Frederick Lewis
PERI Ancestral Roots
EDTN 7th
PUBL Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, MD (1999)
TYPE Book
AUTH Moriarty, G. Andrews
PERI Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III and Queen Phillippa
PUBL Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, Salt Lake City, UT, 1985
DETA A hardbound unedited ms in the author's hand, by one of the great American genealogists.
LOCA The original of the work is in the NEHGS, Boston, MA
TEXT 232
TYPE Book
AUTH Stuart, Roderick W.
PERI Royalty for Commoners
EDTN 3d
PUBL Genealogical Publishing co., Inc, Baltimore, MD (1998)
ISB 0-8063-1561-X
TEXT 214-44
DATE 30 MAY 2000
EDUC founded Prum 721
RELI Sources: O'shea/Charlemagne qvcrom: "Richard Smith" <ras52@cam.ac.uk>Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medievalSubject: Ancestors of CharlemagneDate: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 15:28:51 -0000In my database I have
the following line connecting Charlemagneto thepreceeding Merovingian dynasty:1. Theuderic III, King of the Franks. d 691.2. Bertha. mar Martin, Count of Laon.3. C[h]aribert, Count of Laon.
mar Bertrada. d 747.4. Bertrada of Laon. mar Pepin III, King of the Franks. d783.5. Charlemagne, Emperor of the Romans. b 744. d 814.Unfortunately, I haven't made a note of the source of this
line.I think I have seen it mentioned on this newsgroup that thereare nodocumented descents from the Merovingians, and I can certainlysee reasonswhy Charlemagne (or his sucessors) might want to
claim descentfrom theMerovingians. Anyway, can anyone confirm any of this line?Thanks,Richard.--Richard SmithClare College,Cambridge.From: "Todd A. Farmerie" <taf2@po.cwru.edu>Newsgroups:
soc.genealogy.medievalSubject: Re: Ancestors of CharlemagneDate: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 19:39:44 -0500Organization: Case Western Reserve University> > In my database I have the following line
connectingCharlemagne to the> preceeding Merovingian dynasty:> > 1. Theuderic III, King of the Franks. d 691.><snip>This was speculated by Chaume, but the predominating opinionthese daysis that
Bertrada (not Bertha) mother of Charibert, was daughterof aCount Hugobert. He was perhaps of Merovingian descent, but noancestryis currently known for him. (Oh, and by the way, I don't thinkthere
isany support for calling her husband Martin.)taf
HIST Y
FREN Y
DATE 14 MAR 1999
OCCU Merovingian Princess ...
founded Priem Abbey. Perhaps dau of Thierry I, K. of Austrasia, Neustria &
Burgundy - TOULOU.TXT (Compuserve)
OCCU Merovingian Princess ...
founded Priem Abbey. Perhaps dau of Thierry I, K. of Austrasia, Neustria &
Burgundy - TOULOU.TXT (Compuserve)
OCCU Merovingian Princess ...
founded Priem Abbey. Perhaps dau of Thierry I, K. of Austrasia, Neustria &
Burgundy - TOULOU.TXT (Compuserve)
NSFX , founded the Abbey of Prun (720)
TYPE Book
AUTH Å or c:Weis, Frederick Lewis
PERI Ancestral Roots
EDTN 7th
PUBL Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, MD (1999)
TYPE Book
AUTH Moriarty, G. Andrews
PERI Plantagenet Ancestry of King Edward III and Queen Phillippa
PUBL Mormon Pioneer Genealogical Society, Salt Lake City, UT, 1985
DETA A hardbound unedited ms in the author's hand, by one of the great American genealogists.
LOCA The original of the work is in the NEHGS, Boston, MA
TEXT 232
TYPE Book
AUTH Stuart, Roderick W.
PERI Royalty for Commoners
EDTN 3d
PUBL Genealogical Publishing co., Inc, Baltimore, MD (1998)
ISB 0-8063-1561-X
TEXT 214-44
DATE 30 MAY 2000
EDUC founded Prum 721
RELI Sources: O'shea/Charlemagne qvcrom: "Richard Smith" <ras52@cam.ac.uk>Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medievalSubject: Ancestors of CharlemagneDate: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 15:28:51 -0000In my database I have
the following line connecting Charlemagneto thepreceeding Merovingian dynasty:1. Theuderic III, King of the Franks. d 691.2. Bertha. mar Martin, Count of Laon.3. C[h]aribert, Count of Laon.
mar Bertrada. d 747.4. Bertrada of Laon. mar Pepin III, King of the Franks. d783.5. Charlemagne, Emperor of the Romans. b 744. d 814.Unfortunately, I haven't made a note of the source of this
line.I think I have seen it mentioned on this newsgroup that thereare nodocumented descents from the Merovingians, and I can certainlysee reasonswhy Charlemagne (or his sucessors) might want to
claim descentfrom theMerovingians. Anyway, can anyone confirm any of this line?Thanks,Richard.--Richard SmithClare College,Cambridge.From: "Todd A. Farmerie" <taf2@po.cwru.edu>Newsgroups:
soc.genealogy.medievalSubject: Re: Ancestors of CharlemagneDate: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 19:39:44 -0500Organization: Case Western Reserve University> > In my database I have the following line
connectingCharlemagne to the> preceeding Merovingian dynasty:> > 1. Theuderic III, King of the Franks. d 691.><snip>This was speculated by Chaume, but the predominating opinionthese daysis that
Bertrada (not Bertha) mother of Charibert, was daughterof aCount Hugobert. He was perhaps of Merovingian descent, but noancestryis currently known for him. (Oh, and by the way, I don't thinkthere
isany support for calling her husband Martin.)taf
HIST Y
FREN Y
DATE 14 MAR 1999
OCCU Merovingian Princess ...
founded Priem Abbey. Perhaps dau of Thierry I, K. of Austrasia, Neustria &
Burgundy - TOULOU.TXT (Compuserve)
OCCU Merovingian Princess ...
founded Priem Abbey. Perhaps dau of Thierry I, K. of Austrasia, Neustria &
Burgundy - TOULOU.TXT (Compuserve)
OCCU Merovingian Princess ...
founded Priem Abbey. Perhaps dau of Thierry I, K. of Austrasia, Neustria &
Burgundy - TOULOU.TXT (Compuserve)