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Ermengarde of was born about 0883 in of,,,France. Ermengarde of's father was Richard, Duke of Burgundy and her mother was Adelaide Of Auxerre. Her paternal grandparents were Budwine, Count of Autun and Richilde D' Arles; her maternal grandparents were Conrad II Burgundy and Ermintrude of Alsace. She had a brother and five sisters, named Hugh the Black', Duke of, Alice de, Richilde de, Alice Adelaide Of, Adelaide of and Willa of. She was the third oldest of the seven children. She died before April 0935.General Notes
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SOUR HAWKINS.GED says ABT 890; www.rootsweb.com/gumby says ABT 893;
misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn says 908
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Ermengarde -- "Ermengard is usually called a daughter of Richard the
Justiciar,Duke of Burgundy, but Chaume shows that there is no evidence for
this and that she was probably a sister of Raoul II, Count of Dijon.
[See Chaume, ORIGINES, vol. I, p.421n.] According to Monteyer, she was a
sister of Louis the Blind." - VERGY.TXT (Compuserve)
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SOUR HAWKINS.GED says ABT 890; www.rootsweb.com/gumby says ABT 893;
misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn says 908
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Ermengarde -- "Ermengard is usually called a daughter of Richard the
Justiciar,Duke of Burgundy, but Chaume shows that there is no evidence for
this and that she was probably a sister of Raoul II, Count of Dijon.
[See Chaume, ORIGINES, vol. I, p.421n.] According to Monteyer, she was a
sister of Louis the Blind." - VERGY.TXT (Compuserve)
OCCU ...
SOUR HAWKINS.GED says ABT 890; www.rootsweb.com/gumby says ABT 893;
misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn says 908
SOUR HAWKINS.GED
Ermengarde -- "Ermengard is usually called a daughter of Richard the
Justiciar,Duke of Burgundy, but Chaume shows that there is no evidence for
this and that she was probably a sister of Raoul II, Count of Dijon.
[See Chaume, ORIGINES, vol. I, p.421n.] According to Monteyer, she was a
sister of Louis the Blind." - VERGY.TXT (Compuserve)
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Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 190 says 12 Apr 935
VERGY.TXT (Compuserve)
Probably dau of Boso, King of Burgundy-Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W.
Stuart, p. 190
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Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 190 says 12 Apr 935
VERGY.TXT (Compuserve)
Probably dau of Boso, King of Burgundy-Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W.
Stuart, p. 190
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SOUR HAWKINS.GED says ABT 890; www.rootsweb.com/gumby says ABT 893;
misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn says 908
SOUR HAWKINS.GED
Ermengarde -- "Ermengard is usually called a daughter of Richard the
Justiciar,Duke of Burgundy, but Chaume shows that there is no evidence for
this and that she was probably a sister of Raoul II, Count of Dijon.
[See Chaume, ORIGINES, vol. I, p.421n.] According to Monteyer, she was a
sister of Louis the Blind." - VERGY.TXT (Compuserve)
OCCU ...
SOUR HAWKINS.GED says ABT 890; www.rootsweb.com/gumby says ABT 893;
misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn says 908
SOUR HAWKINS.GED
Ermengarde -- "Ermengard is usually called a daughter of Richard the
Justiciar,Duke of Burgundy, but Chaume shows that there is no evidence for
this and that she was probably a sister of Raoul II, Count of Dijon.
[See Chaume, ORIGINES, vol. I, p.421n.] According to Monteyer, she was a
sister of Louis the Blind." - VERGY.TXT (Compuserve)
OCCU ...
SOUR HAWKINS.GED says ABT 890; www.rootsweb.com/gumby says ABT 893;
misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn says 908
SOUR HAWKINS.GED
Ermengarde -- "Ermengard is usually called a daughter of Richard the
Justiciar,Duke of Burgundy, but Chaume shows that there is no evidence for
this and that she was probably a sister of Raoul II, Count of Dijon.
[See Chaume, ORIGINES, vol. I, p.421n.] According to Monteyer, she was a
sister of Louis the Blind." - VERGY.TXT (Compuserve)
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Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 190 says 12 Apr 935
VERGY.TXT (Compuserve)
Probably dau of Boso, King of Burgundy-Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W.
Stuart, p. 190
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Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 190 says 12 Apr 935
VERGY.TXT (Compuserve)
Probably dau of Boso, King of Burgundy-Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W.
Stuart, p. 190
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OCCU ...
SOUR HAWKINS.GED says ABT 890; www.rootsweb.com/gumby says ABT 893;
misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn says 908
SOUR HAWKINS.GED
Ermengarde -- "Ermengard is usually called a daughter of Richard the
Justiciar,Duke of Burgundy, but Chaume shows that there is no evidence for
this and that she was probably a sister of Raoul II, Count of Dijon.
[See Chaume, ORIGINES, vol. I, p.421n.] According to Monteyer, she was a
sister of Louis the Blind." - VERGY.TXT (Compuserve)
OCCU ...
SOUR HAWKINS.GED says ABT 890; www.rootsweb.com/gumby says ABT 893;
misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn says 908
SOUR HAWKINS.GED
Ermengarde -- "Ermengard is usually called a daughter of Richard the
Justiciar,Duke of Burgundy, but Chaume shows that there is no evidence for
this and that she was probably a sister of Raoul II, Count of Dijon.
[See Chaume, ORIGINES, vol. I, p.421n.] According to Monteyer, she was a
sister of Louis the Blind." - VERGY.TXT (Compuserve)
OCCU ...
SOUR HAWKINS.GED says ABT 890; www.rootsweb.com/gumby says ABT 893;
misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn says 908
SOUR HAWKINS.GED
Ermengarde -- "Ermengard is usually called a daughter of Richard the
Justiciar,Duke of Burgundy, but Chaume shows that there is no evidence for
this and that she was probably a sister of Raoul II, Count of Dijon.
[See Chaume, ORIGINES, vol. I, p.421n.] According to Monteyer, she was a
sister of Louis the Blind." - VERGY.TXT (Compuserve)
OCCU ...
SOUR HAWKINS.GED
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 190 says 12 Apr 935
VERGY.TXT (Compuserve)
Probably dau of Boso, King of Burgundy-Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W.
Stuart, p. 190
OCCU ...
SOUR HAWKINS.GED
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 190 says 12 Apr 935
VERGY.TXT (Compuserve)
Probably dau of Boso, King of Burgundy-Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W.
Stuart, p. 190
Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (118:19), identifies her as husband of ROBERT,but does not give her parents.Stuart's "Royalty for Commoners" (258:37), calls her "prob. dau. of Eliramand sister of Raoul II, Count of Dijon."Moriarty, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 10 says: "Ermengard is usually calleda daughter of Richard the Judiciar, duke of Burgundy, but Chaume showsthat there is no evidence for this and that she is probably a sister of
Raoul II Count of Dijon."
Matman posted to
soc.genealogy.medieval on10 Apr 1997:Subject: Re: Hugh the Black"Gerald Blanchard wrote:"Pere Anselm shows Hugh the Black, Duke of Normandy [sic - Burgundy]d.952, as the son of Richard the Justicier d.921. Ermengarde, is shownas a daughter of Richard and that she married Gilbert, Count of Chalon,Autun & de Beaune. Brian Tompsett's page shows Gilbert's wife as"daughter of Burgundy" whose father was Hugh the Black. Where doesErmengarde actually fit in to this?Jerry"[the reply follows] : "daughter of Burgundy! I guess something got leftout there, perhaps deliberately, as there seem to be a number of viewson Ermengarde's parentage.Here are a few i've collated:Dunbabin (France in the Making 843-1180), p65, says Gilbert (othersources use Giselbert etc) was the son in law of Hugo, but doesn't namethe daughter he married. Their daughter Lietaud married Otto/Odo (d.965)brother of Hugh Capet.Mckitterick (the Frankish Kingdoms under the Carolingians, 1983) inone of the genealogical charts has Ermengarde dau of Richard leJusticiar, married to Gilbert.Europaisches Stammtafeln, III, 189 mentions no daughters of Richard leJ, or Hugh the Black. It has Gilbert's father, Manasses as a nephew of R leJ (which is surely wrong, as they were contempories) and creditsGiselbert with a daughter Adelaide, who married 3 times:1) Robert of Meaux and Troyes, son of Heribert II of Vermandois2). Lambert of Chalon, d.9793.) Geoffrey I of Anjou, d.987ES II, 11 says however, that Lietaud, wife of Odo/Otto, above, was thedaughter of Gilbert and Ermengarde.I suspect that the reason for this confusion, is because differenttheories exist among the French historians who did the initial research. Ithink the oldest view (dating from the 17th century! by Duchesne,l'origine de la maison de Vergy, etc) was that Gilbert had married a dau.of Richard. But this century some have made him marry a dau of Hugo(P.Lauer, le regne de Raoul et Loius IV, 1900, I think is the title). Thereare some more up to date studies on Burgundy by Constance Bouchard, butI havn't looked at them yet. There's also a book on the duchy of Burgundyby a French abbot, Maurice Chaume, which goes into huge detail on this.
I expect there are other theories on this descent as well."
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Ancestor Pedigree Chart
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*There are earlier generations for the ancestor(s) indicated. See their page(s) for details (click name)
- b.~ 0776 in Ponthieu,Ain,France d.~ 0814
- b.0797 d.0826
- b.2 APR 742 in Ingelheim,Rheinhessen,Hesse-Darmstadt d.28 JAN 814 in ,Aachen,Rhineland,Prussia
- b.0779 in Aachen,Rhineland,Prussia d.0853
- b.0758 in Aachen,Rhineland,Prussia d.30 APR 783 in Thionville,Moselle,France
- b.~ 0820 in in Metz,France d.~ 0865
- b.< 0725 d.0762
- b.~ 0755 d.0825
- b.~ 0735 d.Deceased
- b.0795
- b.~ 0860 in BURGUNDY,FRANCE d.1 SEP 921 in Auxerre
- b.0730 d.> 0750
- b.0755 d.> 0826
- b.0800 d.0855
- b.0830 in <Of,,,France> d.0883
- b.0800
- b.~ 0883 in of,,,France d.<Apr 0935
- b.0750 in Altdorf,Bavaria
- b.~ 0776 in Of,Altdorf,,Bavaria d.~ 0830
- b.<826> in <Of,Aachen,Rhineland,Prussia>
- b.0811 in Of Burgundy,France d.16 FEB 862 in ? Burgundy
- b.~ 0756 in <Of,,Normandy,France> d.~ 0813
- b.0780 in Saxony,Germany d.0833
- b. in <Of,,Normandy,France> d. in Y
- b.0825 in Auxerre,Burgundy d.~ 0887 in Burgundy ?
- b.~ 0740 in of,,Alsace,France d.0802 in France
- b.0765 in Upper,Alsace,France d.~ 0839 in France
- b.~ 0744 in ,Upper,Alsace,France d.0814
- b.~ 0814 in Tours,Indre-et-Loire,France,France d.20 MAR 851 in Anjou
- b.~ 0745 in Paris,France d.0816
- b.~ 0769 in Of,Tours,Indre Et Loire,France d.> 0837 in France
- b.<745> in <Paris,France>
- b.0849 in Of,,Burgundy,France d.0921
- b.~ 0707 in Of,,Alsace,France d.~ 0750 in ,,,France
- b.~ 0740 in of,,Alsace,France d.0802 in France
- b.~ 0719 in in Haut Alsace,France
- b.~ 0797 in of,,,France
- b.2 APR 742 in Ingelheim,Rheinhessen,Hesse-Darmstadt d.28 JAN 814 in ,Aachen,Rhineland,Prussia
- b.~ 0744 in ,Upper,Alsace,France d.0814
- b.~ 0763 in France d.10 Ago 794
- b.~ 0830 in of,Burgundy,France
- b.~ 0802 in of,,,France
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Ermengarde of and Gislebert were married in a religious ceremony before 0956. They had a daughter named Adelais "Were" Countess of.
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Children
Adelais "Were" Countess of Vermandois
Adelais "Were" Countess of was born about 0914 in Of,Bourgogne,Marneogne,France. She died in Troyes? - Wife of Robert of Meaux.
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