UNKNOWN Joanna 
UNKNOWN was born in of London,Middlesex,England.1 UNKNOWN's father was John Lackland Plantagenet King of England and her mother was Agatha de Ferrers. She had eleven half-brothers and five half-sisters, named Oliver, Richard , Constable of Wallingford, Richard FitzJohn of Dover, Odo (Eudo), Ivo, Geoffrey, Sir John FitzJohn, Henry, Henry III Plantagenet, Richard of Cornwall, Osbert, Isabella, Joan of England, Isabella of England, Eleanor and Matilda. She died in Aberconwy,Arllechwedd Uchaf,Caernarvonshire,Wales.1 General Notes
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ES III:356b credits John with two illegitimate children by Agatha deFerrers
- Joan and Richard.
"Magna Charta Barons" by Charles H. Browning, copyright 1969 (I'munsure of the overall reliability of this source), gives Joan's motheras Agatha de Ferrers, daughter of Robert de Ferrers, fourth Earl ofDerby.
The journal "The Plantagenet Connection" has published an ahnentafelof Elizabeth Plantagenet, wife of Henry VII, which gives Joan'smother's name as Constance (Clementia) of Brittany. This is the sameConstance who was married to Geoffrey Plantagenet, John's brother.Considering the well-known animosity between Constance and John andher attempts to press her own son Arthur's interests as far as thethrone of England were concerned (whom John murdered with his ownhands) the relationship seems unlikely. The Constance that historyportrays does not seem as one who John could easily seduce or coerceinto bed.
Others suggest her mother was Clemantina, the wife of Henry Pinel.
Penman, Sharon Kay. "Here Be Dragons". New York: Ballatine Books,June
1993.
Penman, Sharon Kay. "Falls The Shaow". New York: Ballatine Books,May
1989.
Lewis, Marlyn (compiler for "The Plantagenet Connection"). "Ahnentafelfor
Elizabeth Plantagenet (Wife of Henry Tudor): Generations 1-15".Arvada, Colorado:
Heliotrope Communications, 1996.
Wurts, John C. "Magna Charta". Copyright 1945.
Browning, Charles H. "Magna Charta Barons". Copyright 1969.
Adams, Arthur and Frederick Weis. "Magna Charta Sureties". Copyright1955.
Sir J. E. Lloyd's "History of Wales", Vol.II
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UNKNOWN and Llywelyn Fawr ap , Prince of Wales were married in a religious ceremony in 1205 in Saint Werburgh Benedictine Abbey,Chester,Chestershire.1 They had two sons and three daughters, named Tegwared-y-Bais Wen ap Llywelyn, Dafydd ap Llywelyn , Prince of Gwynedd, Angharad verch Llywelyn , of Wales, Elen (Helena) verch Llywelyn , of Wales and Marared Drwyndon verch Llywelyn , of Wales.
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Children
Tegwared-y-Bais Wen ap Llywelyn Fawr
Tegwared-y-Bais Wen ap Llywelyn was born in May 1205.1 He died about April 1235.1
Elen (Helena) verch Llywelyn , of Wales Fawr
Elen (Helena) verch Llywelyn , of Wales was born on November 1st, 1207 in Gwynedd,Wales.1 She died at the age of 45 on October 24th, 1253 in Stevington,England.1
Dafydd ap Llywelyn , Prince of Gwynedd Fawr
Dafydd ap Llywelyn , Prince of Gwynedd was born in November 1208 in Gwynedd,Wales.1 He died in Aberconwy,Arllechwedd Uchaf,Caernarvonshire,Wales.1
UNKNOWN and William "Black Will" de Braose were married in a religious ceremony about October 1228.1
Family Notes
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One interesting story from Joan and Llywelyn's marriage: about1230/1231,
Llywelyn returned home unexpectedly to find Joan alone in theirbedroom with
William de Braose. This story is recounted in "Here Be Dragons" andone
other "purely historical" source. William was later hanged onLlywelyn's order.
From "The Genealogist" article by Wm. Addams Reitwiesner: He wasdiscovered in Joan's chambers, accused of being her lover, andpromptly
and publicly hanged. While the story that William and Joan werelovers has
been generally accepted, the Annals of Margam (in T. Gale, ed ,Historiae
Britannicae et Anglicanae Scriptores XX (Oxford, 1687), 2-18, [anno]MCCXXX)
implies that the "intimacy" was devised by Llywelyn to avenge himselfon
William for political injuries inflicted not only by William but bythe entire
Braose family; the execution was hailed by the Welsh as a vindicationof a
blood-feud against the Braoses dating from at least 1176. Indeed,shortly
after the execution Llywelyn wrote to William's widow Eva and toWilliam
Marshal, Earl of Pembroke, Eva's brother, stating, in effect, that sofar as
he was concerned, the intended marriage between Llywelyn's son Dafyddand
Eva's daughter Isabella could go forward as planned, and that he couldnot
have prevented the Welsh magnates from taking their vengeance. See J.Goronwy Edwards, Calendar of Ancient Correspondence concerning Wales(Board of Celtic Studies of the University of Wales, History and LawSeries, 2)(Cardiff, 1935), pp 51-52, nos. XI.56a, 56b. The marriagein fact took place three months later.
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