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TITL Garner, Lorraine Ann "Lori"
PUBL P.O. Box 577, Bayview, ID 83803
Her sources included, but may not be limited to: Burke's Landed Gentry, Burke's Dormant & Ext inct Peerage, Burke's Peerage of American Presidents, Debrett's Peerage, Oxford histories & " numerous
other reference works"
very good to excellent, although she has a tendency to follow Burke's
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Hardcopy notes of Lori Garner Elmore.
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MEDI Letter
PAGE Courtenay
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TITL Ancestry of Richard Plantagenet & Cecily de Neville
AUTH Ernst-Friedrich Kraentzler
PUBL published by author 1978
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J.H. Garner
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MEDI Book
PAGE chart 1063
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TEXT m Apr 1180
TITL Mann Database
AUTH Ed Mann
Contributor on soc.genealogy.medieval
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edmann@@commnections.com
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MEDI Electronic
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TEXT m Apr 1180
TITL Ahnentafel for Margery Arundell
AUTH Marlyn Lewis
PUBL 08 Oct 1997
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MEDI Manuscript
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TEXT m Apr 1186, her 2nd m
TITL Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America bef 1760
AUTH Frederick Lewis Weis
PUBL 7th ed Genealogical Publishing, Baltimore 1992
Same ref source as earlier ed, "Ancestral Roots of 60 Colonists who Came to New England 1623- 1650" ed 1-6
good to very good
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J.H. Garner
CALN
MEDI Book
PAGE p 106
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TEXT m Apr 1186, her 2nd m
TITL Descents from Antiquity
AUTH The Augustan Society
Chris Bennett (cbennett@@nospam.com) writes: The Augustan DFA charts show lines from the 17t h Egyptian dynasty to the medieval English kings. There are no "proven" descents going ove r that period.
There are two major problem with the DFA charts: (1) they don't distinguish between prove n descents and hypothetical ones, giving the uninitiated the impression that this is all prov en material,
and (2) there is no bibliography so you can't follow up on it [one was intended but the Augu stans never got around to publishing it.] The hypotheses used are not always the best one s -- in many
cases they are very old and IMO certainly wrong -- but they are not fantasies, the ones I ha ve identified (mostly in the earlier sections) are always the results of someone's serious sc holarship.
Stewart Baldwin (sbald@@auburn.campus.mci.net) arites: There are a number of Descents from An tiquity charts floating around, and the answer to your question depends on which line you ar e interested
in and what you want to know about it. If you want a well documented generation-by-generati on descent from antiquity, then the
answer is that none of the charts purporting to give such a descent are valid. Depending o n which claim for descent from antiquity you are talking about, the assessment would generall y range from
plausible (but definitely unproven) to completely absurd.
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CALN
MEDI Book
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TEXT m Apr 1186
TITL Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy
AUTH Alison Weir
PUBL rev. ed, Pimlico Random House, London 1989, 1996
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J.H. Garner
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MEDI Book
PAGE p 67
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TEXT no date/place