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Name: John de Warenne , 7th Earl of Surrey 1 2
Sex: M
Birth: AFT AUG 1231 in Warren, Sussex, England 1 2
Death: AFT SEP 1304 in Kennington, Surrey, England 1 3
Burial: Lewes Priory, Sussex, England
Note:
John was the leader of the English forces which lost to William Wallace in the battle of Stirling Bridge in 1297 as depicted in the film "Braveheart".

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EARLDOM OF SURREY (VII)

JOHN (DE WARENNE), EARL OF SURREY, only son and heir, by 2nd wife, born in or after August 1231. His mother released to him his father's lands in Norfolk on 1 April 1248, and the King allowed him to have seisin, though he was not of age. In December 1252 he was forbidden to take part in the dispute between the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Bishop-elect of Winchester. In 1254 he joined the King at Bordeaux; and on 14 September offered himself as hostage for the King's debt there. In 1255 he joined the other nobles in their resistance to the influx of foreigners into England; in September he was instructed to escort the King of Scotland to the King. About the same time he was granted to himself and heirs weekly markets at several of his manors. In 1257 he went with Richard, Earl of Cornwall, King elect of the Romans, to Almain. By writ dated 14 March 1257/8 he was summoned to Chester to perform his service against the Welsh, and frequently thereafter until 1294. In June 1258 he was present at a Parliament at Oxford, when the nobles demanded the observance of Magna Carta. In July he was one of the Earls assigned as escort to the King's brothers to Dover and Witsand; in October he was sick at Hampstead Marshall. In March 1260 he was summoned to London with horses and arms, and was directed to live at Clerkenwell or the New Temple. In April 1260 the King returned from France, bringing with him many foreigners and exasperating the nobles, including the Earl. By 28 December the Earl had gone overseas in the service of Prince Edward. On 20 March 1262/3 he landed at Dover, and in May he was sum. to Worcester; in August he was appointed to treat of peace with Llewelin, son of Griffith. On 18 September he was granted all the lands of the Normans which he had, or which fell within his fee. Between October and December he with many of the magnates joined Simon de Montfort and Prince Edward. On 16 December he assented to the King's agreement to submit the question of the Provisions of Oxford to arbitration by the King of France. On 24 December he was appointed Keeper of the counties of Surrey and Sussex. In April 1264 he garrisoned the Castle of Rochester, where he was besieged for about a week by Simon de Montfort, until he was relieved by the King; and he was in the Prince's army at the battle of Lewes on 14 May, whence he and the King's brothers fled to Pevensey, subsequently crossing to France. On 10 May 1265 he landed at Pembroke with William de Valence and a body of armed men, and the King issued warnings to the sheriffs and others not to encourage them. On 24 May he sued for the return of his lands. On 8 June Prince Edward joined them at Ludlow and on 28 June they were holding many towns. On 1 August they reached Kenilworth. On 7 May 1266 it was ordered that archers should be sent to London to him; and on 27 May, with William de Valence, he went to Bury St. Edmunds to fine the Abbey and the burgesses. Towards the end of May 1267 his negotiations to induce the Earl of Gloucester to submit were successfully concluded; in the Octave of Michaelmas he received a pardon for excesses committed in the recent time of disturbance; and on 10 March 1267/8 was pardoned for non-observance of the Provisions of Oxford. On the Octave of St. John in 1270 he quarrelled in Westminster Hall with Alan la Zouche, and attacked him so violently that he died on 10 August, his son escaping with difficulty. The Earl fled to his castle at Reigate, pursued by Prince Edward, and begged for mercy; and on 4 August 1270 he was pardoned on his undertaking to pay a substantial sum to the King. On 20 November 1272, 4 days after the King's death, he swore allegiance to Prince Edward, then on his way home from a Crusade; the Earl was one of the guardians of the realm until his return. In March 1277/8 he was assigned with others to escort the King of Scotland to London; and at Michaelmas 1278 was present in Parliament when the King did his hornage. In 1278, he was interrogated under the Statute of Quo Warranto as to the title by which he held his lands.[m] In September 1285 he was going with the King to Scotland. On 14 February 1289/90 he was going as the King's envoy to Scotland, and on 20 June 1290 was appointed with others to treat with the Scots. On 28 August Prince Edward appointed him his procurator in the negotiations for his marriage to Margaret Queen of Scotland, and on 1 September he was accredited to meet the envoys of the King of Norway in the Isle of Orkney. On 16 April 1291 he was summoned to be at Norham with horses and arms in connection with the claims to the throne of Scotland; and in the same year was appointed Keeper of Scotland. He was appointed to the custody of the sea-coast on 16 September 1295, of the counties beyond Trent on 5 October, and of the castle of Bamburgh on 6 October. On 18 October he was about to go to Scotland on the King's service. On 27 April 1296 he was attacked by the Scots near Dunbar, but repulsed them without loss, and the castle of Dunbar was captured. On 3 September he was appointed Keeper of the realm of Scotland. In May 1297 he set out for Scotland, but remained in the north of England for safety, until he was ordered by the King, then in Flanders, to take action against the Scots. In August the Scots attacked his advance guard, under Henry de Percy, but were repelled, and many submitted; but on 10 September the Earl was defeated with great slaughter at Stirling, and fled to Berwick, which he abandoned and lost. On 10 December 1297 he was appointed Captain of the army to oppose the invading Scots; and in January and February 1297/8 marched into Scotland. In 1299 and 1300 he was in Scotland, but he was at the Archbishop's banquet in September 1299 after the King's marriage. In July 1300 he was at Carlisle with the King, and he commanded the 2nd division at the siege of Carlaverock. On 1 March 1300/1 he was appointed with others to treat with the envoys of Philip, King of France, on losses inflicted by the Scots. His seal was appended to the Barons' Letter to the Pope, which bears date 12 February 1301/2.

He married in August 1247, Alice, uterine sister of the King, being daughter of Hugh (LE BRUN), COUNT OF LA MARCHEand LORD OF LUSIGNAN AND VALENCE, by Isabel, widow of JOHN, KING OF ENGLAND, daughter of Ademar, COUNT OF ANGOULÊME. She died 9 February 1255/6. The Earl died about Michaelmas 1304 at Kennington, near London, and was buried before the high altar at Lewes Priory. [Complete Peerage XII/1:503-7, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

[m] He is alleged to have produced in open court an ancient rusty sword saying "Here, my Lord, is my warrant. My ancestors coming in with William the Bastard won their lands with the sword, and with the sword I will hold them against all comers." He won the sympathy of his brother nobles, and the King gave in.

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John de Warren (Plantagenet), Earl of Warren and Surrey, was but five years of age at the time of his father's decease, and was placed in ward with Peter de Savoy, the Queen's brother. When he attained majority, he attached himself zealously to Henry III in his conflicts with the barons and maintained the cause of the king with his sword at the battle of Lewes. His lordship was a person of violent and imperious temper and was often betrayed into acts of great intemperance, as in the instance of assaulting Sir Alan Zouch and his son, Roger, in Westminster Hall, when he almost killed the one and wounded the other. And again, when Edward I issued the first writs of Quo Warranto, his lordship being questioned as to the title of his possessions, exhibited to the justices an old sword and unsheathing it said, "Behold my lords, here is my warranty; my ancestors coming into this land with William the Bastard, did obtain their lands by the sword, and I am resolved with the sword to defend them against whomsoever shall endeavour to dispossess me, but our progenitors were sharers and assistants therein." The earl was constituted, by King Edward, general of all his forces on the north of Trent for the better restraining the insolences of the Scots; whereupon he marched into Scotland and so terrified the inhabitants that they immediately sued for peace and gave hostages for their future good conduct. But the war soon after breaking out afresh, his lordship sustained a signal defeat at Strivelin where his troops fled first to Berwick, and thence into England. The earl m. 1st, 1247, Alice, dau. of Hugh le Brun, Count de la March, and half sister by the mother of King Henry III, and 2ndly, Joan, dau. of William, Lord Mowbray, and by the former only had issue, William, Alianore, and Isabel. His lordship d. in 1304, and was s. by his grandson, John de Warren (Plantagenet). [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 569, Warren, Earls of Surrey]


Father: William de Warenne , 6th Earl of Surrey b: AFT 1165 in Lewes, Sussex, England
Mother: Maud Marshal b: ABT 1192 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales

Marriage 1 Alice de Lusignan b: ABT 1224 in Lusignan, Vienne, Poitou, France
Married: AUG 1247 in Woodstock, Kent, England 1 4
Children
Eleanor de Warenne b: 1251 in Warren, Sussex, England
Isabel de Warenne b: ABT 1253 in Warren, Sussex, England
William de Warenne , Sir Knight b: ABT 1256 in Warren, Sussex, England

Sources:
Title: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999
Page: 151-2
Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
Page: XII/1:503-507
Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
Page: XII/1:503-507
Text: about Michaelmas, 1304
Title: Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000
Page: XII/1:507

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Name: John de 7th Earl of Surrey WARENNE
Given Name: John de 7th Earl of Surrey
Surname: Warenne
Sex: M
Birth: Aft. Aug 1231 in of Warren, Surrey, England 1
Death: Aft. Sep 1304 in Kennington, Surrey, England 1
Note:
John was the leader of the English forces which lost to William Wallace
in the battle of Stirling Bridge in 1297 as depicted in the film
"Braveheart".
John de Warren (Plantagenet) Earl of Warren and Surrey, was but five
years of age at the time of his father's decease, and was placed in ward
with Peter de Savoy, the Queen's brother. When he attained majority, he
attached himself zealously to Henry III in his conflicts with the barons
and maintained the cause of the king with his sword at the battle of
Lewes. His lordship was a person of violent and imperious temper and was
often betrayed into acts of great intemperance, as in the instance of
assaulting Sir Alan Zouch and his son, Roger, in Westminster Hall, when
he almost killed the one and wounded the other. And again, when Edward I
issued the first writs of Quo Warranto, his lordship being questioned as
to the title of his possessions, exhibited to the justices an old sword
and unsheathing it said, "Behold my lords, here is my warranty; my
ancestors coming into this land with William the Bastard, did obtain
their lands by the sword, and I am resolved with the sword to defend them
against whomsoever shall endeavour to dispossess me, but our progenitors
were sharers and assistants therein." The earl was constituted, by King
Edward, general of all his forces on the north of Trent for the better
restraining the insolences of the Scots; whereupon he marched into
Scotland and so terrified the inhabitants that they immediately sued for
peace and gave hostages for their future good conduct. But the war soon
after breaking out afresh, his lordship sustained a signal defeat at
Strivelin where his troops fled first to Berwick, and thence into
England. The earl m. 1st1247, Alice, dau. of Hugh le Brun Count de la
March, and half sister by the mother of King Henry III, and 2ndly, Joan,
dau. of William Lord Mowbray, and by the former only had issue, William,
Alianore, and Isabel. His lordship d. in 1304, and was s. by his
grandson, John de Warren (Plantagenet). [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant,
Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London,
1883, p. 569, Warren Earls of Surrey]


Father: William de 6th Earl of Surrey WARENNE b: 1166 in Surrey, England
Mother: Maud MARSHAL b: Abt. 1192 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales

Marriage 1 Alice de LUSIGNAN b: Abt. 1224 in Lusignan, Vienne, France
Married: Aug 1247 in of Woodstock, Kent, England 1
Children
Eleanor de WARENNE b: 1251 in Warren, Surrey, England
Isabel de WARENNE b: Abt. 1253 in Warren, Sussex, England
William de WARENNE b: Abt. 1256 in Warren, Sussex, England

Sources:
Author: Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr
Title: The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215
Publication: 5th Edition, 1999
Repository:

Page: 151-2