Joan De+ Say 
Joan De+ was born about 1328 in Sawbridgeworth, Herefordshire, England. Joan De+'s father was Geoffrey De+ Say and her mother is Maud De+ Beauchamp. Her paternal grandfather was Geoffrey III De+ Say and her paternal grandmother is Idonea De+ Leybourne; her maternal grandfather was Walter De+ Beauchamp and her maternal grandmother is Alice De+ Toeni. She had a brother and a sister, named William VII De+ and Idonea De. She is the youngest of the three children.General Notes
SOURCES: LDS FHL Ancestral File # 1592-6W6 (familysearch.org)
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"Ancestors/Descendants of Royal Lines" (Contributors: F. L. Jacquier (History of Charlemagne by Christian Settipani); L. Orlandini, Manuel Abranches de Soveral, Reynaud de Paysac, F.L. J P de Palmas (Aurejac et Tournemire; Frankish line; The Complete Peerage}, Jacquier (Genealogy of Lewis Carroll, Justin Swanstrom, The Royal Families of England Scotland & Wales by Burkes Peerage; Debrett's Peerage & Baronage; Table of descendants French Canadian Genealogical Society; Families of Monfort-sur-Risle & Bertrand de Bricquebec; The Dukes of Normandy, XXXXI), A. Brabant ("Dynastie Montmorency, Michel d'Herbigny), Paul Leportier, Claude Barret, H.R. Moser (Burke Peerage), O.Guionneau, L.B. de Rouge, E. Polti, N. Danican (Britain's Royal Families; Buthlaw, Succession of Strathclyde, the Armorial 1961-62) A.Terlinden (Genealogy of the existing British Peerage, 1842), L. Gustavsson, C. Cheneaux, E. Lodge, S. Bontron (Brian Tompsett), R. Dewkinandan, H. de la Villarmois, C. Donadello; Scevole de Livonniere, H. de la Villarmois, I. Flatmoen, P. Ract Madoux (History of Morhange; Leon Maujean; Annuaire de Lorraine, 1926; La Galissonniere: Elections d'Arques et Rouen), Jean de Villoutreys (ref: Georges Poull), E. Wilkerson-Theaux (Laura Little), O. Auffray, A. Brabant (Genealogy of Chauvigny of Blot from "Chanoine Prevost Archiviste du Diocese de Troyes Union Typographique Domois Cote-d'Or 1925), Emmanuel Arminjon (E Levi-Provencal Histoire de l'Espagne Andalouse), Y. Gazagnes-Gazanhe, R. Sekulovich and J.P. de Palmas ("notes pierfit et iconographie Insecula", Tournemire), H de Riberolles (Base Tournemire), Franck Veillon........... http://geneastar.org.
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Ancestor Pedigree Chart
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*There are earlier generations for the ancestor(s) indicated. See their page(s) for details (click name)
- b.~ 1155 in West Greenwich, Kent, England d.24 Oct 1230 in Poitou, France
- b.~ 1195 in West Greenwich, Kent, England d.<12 Feb 1272
- b.~ 1160 in Sussex, England d.~ 1225
- b.23 Nov 1253 in Berling, Kent, England d.16 Sep 1295
- b.~ 1146 in Rockley, Marlborough, Wiltshire, England/Alternate POB given d.14 May 1219 in Caversham Manor, Henley, Oxfordshire, England
- b.~ 1206 in Derbyshire, England d.28 Mar 1254 in Leicestershire, England
- b.~ 1172 in Pembrokeshire, Wales d.1220 in Pembrokeshire, Wales
- b.1281 in Berling, Kent, England d.1322
- b.~ 1258
- b.06 Jun 1305 in Sawbridgeworth, Herefordshire, England d.26 Jun 1359
- b.1196 in Leybourne, Kent, Englnand
- b.~ 1220 in Leybourne, Kent, Englnand
- b.1198 in Great Berwick, Shropshire, England
- b.1242 in Leybourne, Kent, England d.<12 Mar 1310
- b.~ 1281
- b.~ 1220 in Dent on Lion, Kentshire, England d.1255
- b.< 1256 in Preston, Kent, England
- b.~ 1217 in Eynsford, Dartford, Kent, England d.< 1245
- b.~ 1236 in Eynsford, Dartford, Kent, England d.< 1271
- b.~ 1218
- b.~ 1328 in Sawbridgeworth, Herefordshire, England
- b.~ 1158 in Elmley, Worcestershire, England d.> 1235 in Elmley Castle, Worcestershire, England
- b.~ 1184 in Of, Elmley, Worcestershire, England d.14 Apr 1236
- b.~ 1158 in Bramber, Sussex, England d.> 1235 in Elmley Castle, Worcestershire, England
- b.~ 1210 in Elmley Castle, Gloucestershire, England d.>07 Jan 1269 in Elmley Castle, Worcestershire, England
- b.1158 in Wigmore, Herefordshire, England d.24 Jun 1214 in Wigmore, Herefordshire, England
- b.~ 1186 in Of, Elmley, Worcestershire, England d.1268
- b.~ 1168 in Derbyshire, England
- b.~ 1243 in Elmley Castle, Worcestershire, England d.12 Aug 1315 in Warwick, Warwickshire, England
- b.< 1171 in Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, England d.BET JUN 1221 AND 1222
- b.~ 1196 in Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, England d.Apr 1257
- b.~ 1177 in Chapham, Bedfordshire, England d.1224
- b.~ 1217 in Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, England d.1278
- b.~ 1148 in Warwick Castle, Warwickshire, England d.<13 Oct 1204
- b.> 1196 in Hanslope, Buckinghamshire, England d.< 1263
- b.~ 1170 d.>Sep 1212
- b.~ 1302 in Sawbridgeworth, Herefordshire, England
- b.~ 1160 in Flamsted, Herefordshire, England d.~Jan 1209
- b.~ 1190 in Flamsted, Herefordshire, England d.29 Jul 1295 in Drowned in sea of France
- b.~ 1166 in Flamsted, Herefordshire, England d.> 1226
- b.~ 1235 in Flamsted, Herefordshire, England d.29 Jul 1295 in Gascony, France
- b.< 1149 in Of, Ewias Lacy, Herefordshire, England d.24 Feb 1241
- b.~ 1204 in Trim Castle, Meath, Ireland d.>09 Mar 1290 in Per one source
- b.~ 1184 in Of, Abergavenny, Wales d.19 Nov 1206
- b.~ 1260 in Flamsted, Herefordshire, England
- b.< 1177 in Of, Warwick, Warwickshire, England d.01 Jun 1220 in On passage to the Holy Lands
- b.< 1208 in Hungerford, Essex, England d.24 Sep 1275
- b.< 1177 in Of, Warwick, Warwickshire, England d.27 Aug 1236 in England
- b.~ 1236 in Flamsted, Herefordshire, England d.1264
- b.~ 1195
- b.~ 1213 in La Marche, Poitiers, France d.12 Aug 1241
- b.1196 d.1239
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Joan De+ and William+ were married in a religious ceremony on November 12th, 1351 in Sawbridgeworth, Herefordshire, England. They had a son named William+.
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Children
William+ Fiennes
William+ was born about 1354 in Herstmonceaux, Sussex, England. He died on January 18th, 1403. He was buried in Herstmonceaux, Sussex, England.
Joan De+ and Stephen De+ were married in a religious ceremony after 1359 in Sawbridgeworth, Herefordshire, England. They have a son named Stephen De+.