Curt Hofemann, in a post-em, indicates many people have doubts about Sprota's noble birth:
Sprota [Ref: ES III:694A] note: I have numerous notes on her (lack of) ancestry which I think I've previously provided. If I've not, let me know & I will gladly share them... Curt
Raoul/Rudolf/Ralph, count of Ivry, is the uterine brother of Richard I of Normandy, son of William. ("This was given by Dudo based on information supplied to him by Raoul himself, so is perfectly reliable", as Todd's mentioned.) But my understanding has always been that Raoul was the son of Sprota/Esporta de Bretagne/Senlis not by William Longsword but by Asperling/Esperlingus/Eperling. [Ref: Christopher Nash message to Gen-Medieval 15 Apr 2002 discussing an error in KSB Keats-Rohan's Domesday People. TAF (Todd A Farmerie) in response confirmed the above] note: she was NOT de Senlis and as far as "de Bretagne" see below... Curt
While this speculation is certainly possible, the alternative is likewise possible, that being that she was just some cute looking Breton peasant that William took a liking to. That, however, provides no opportunity for further genealogical research, so tends to pale in comparison to the possibility of attaching her to some noble house. My gut reaction is that, considering her son Ralph (d'Ivry) was one of the main sources of the norman historian Dudo, yet no such important connection was mentioned, she likely did not have any hereditary recomendations (sic) when chosen by Longsword. [Ref: TAF 9 Dec 2002]
Regards,
Curt
Maloney, Hendrick & Others - J. H. Maloney
OCCU Espriote, a Danish lady..
SOUR HAWKINS.GED says ABT 911;www.rootsweb.com/gumby says ABT 911,Bretagne,France;
misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001 says 878;
gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001 says 902
SOUR HAWKINS.GED
"Danish Wife"; a Breton captive - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W.Stuart,
p.124;Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124 says they weremarried
- NLP; Espriota (Adela \ Sprote) de Bretagne -http://misc.traveller.com/genea
logy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000087.htm#I1327
OCCU Espriote, a Danish lady..
SOUR HAWKINS.GED says ABT 911;www.rootsweb.com/gumby says ABT 911,Bretagne,France;
misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001 says 878;
gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001 says 902
SOUR HAWKINS.GED
"Danish Wife"; a Breton captive - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W.Stuart,
p.124;Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124 says they weremarried
- NLP; Espriota (Adela \ Sprote) de Bretagne -http://misc.traveller.com/genea
logy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000087.htm#I1327
OCCU Espriote, a Danish lady..
SOUR HAWKINS.GED says ABT 911;www.rootsweb.com/gumby says ABT 911,Bretagne,France;
misc.traveller.com/genealogy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001 says 878;
gendex.com/users/daver/rigney/D0001 says 902
SOUR HAWKINS.GED
"Danish Wife"; a Breton captive - Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W.Stuart,
p.124;Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 124 says they weremarried
- NLP; Espriota (Adela \ Sprote) de Bretagne -http://misc.traveller.com/genea
logy/gedhtml/kmilburn/d0001/g0000087.htm#I1327
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TEXT (121E-19)
TYPE E-Mail Message
AUTH (Mike Talbot) MTaHT<mtaht@aol.com >
TITL Re: Vitri [Vitre]
DATE 24 Jun 1998
LOCA GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@rootsweb.com/PowerMac6500>Applications>Reunion>Documents-source
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AUTH (Mike Talbot) MTaHT<mtaht@aol.com >
TITL Re: Vitri [Vitre]
DATE 24 Jun 1998
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DATE 12 JUN 2000
DATE 7 MAY 2000
DATE 19 JUN 2000
_MED website
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_MED website
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Dead
DATE 20 JUL 1999
OCCU Sprote of Normandy
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 78 says CIR 908;
members.aol.com/sargen3 says ABT 908, Normandy, France;
www.teleport.com/ddonahue/donahue says ABT 908;
OCCU Sprote of Normandy
SOUR Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 78 says CIR 908;
members.aol.com/sargen3 says ABT 908, Normandy, France;
www.teleport.com/ddonahue/donahue says ABT 908;
I wish I was sure of every name in this file & that I didnt
need to know what you think :) hey, but always refining this,
So if you spot a place where Im just flat wrong please tell
me or someone I didnt go on out with, I do this file out of fun andwanting to know, but do not
respond to the 'know it alls' , that dont have manners.I dont
consider them Kin!
Thanks and Happy Hunting!
1 BIRT
2 DATE ABT 908
2 PLAC Bourgoyne, France
Of BrittanyAKA: Sprotta de Senlis. AKA: Espriota de Bretagne. AKA:Sprota de St. Lis
pg. 6, "The Plantagenet Ancestry" by.W.H. Turton published 1928, republished 1984
Jim Weber <jimweber@nwintl.com
Please send ANY errors, or extensions by E-mail, as I can't trace anything by Post-em. If the name you want is not in this data base, I don't have it. Sorry
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