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OCCU Count of Limegos ...
SOUR www.rootsweb.com/gumby says ABT 815, Poitiers, Vienna, France ;
SOUR POITOU.TXT (Compuserve)
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 118 says at Battle of Fontiniy
HAWKINS.GED
QUAY 1
GERARD, COUNT OF LIMOGES
ORIGINS OF THE COUNTS OF POITOU
[EXCERPTED FROM: G.A. Moriarty's PLANTAGENET ANCESTRY; all material in double-
quotes is a direct quote from him.]
"POITOU: The origins of the Counts of Poitou have been considered by M. Leone
Auzier in his paper, "L'origine carolingienne des ducs feodaux d'Aquitaine et
des rois capetiens," in REVUE HISTORIQUE, vol. 173 (1934), p.91 et seq, and in
his L'AQUITAINE CAROLINGIENNE 776-987 (1937), p.461 et seq. He suggests that
the Counts of Poitou descended from Gerard, Count of Limoges, slain at
Fontenay, by his wife, who was a sister of Pepin I, the Carolingian King of
Aquitaine, and so a daughter of the Emperor Louis the Pious. Gerard was
certainly a brother-in-law of King Pepin (Auzier, L'AQUITAINE, p.130), but
Mabille held, without offering proof, that Ranulf I was the son of another
wife, [that?] Richard wavered in his views on this point, but the famous
French scholar, M. Ferdinand Lot, and M. Flack, as well as M. Auzier believe
that Ranulf I was a son of the sister of Pepin I, King of Aquitaine (Auzier,
L'AQUITAINE, p.149n64), and thus the Counts of Poitou had a Carolingian
descent. When Charloman [sic] called Gerard the "gens" of King Pepin, he used
the word instead of brother-in-law.
"Gerard,who was a faithful adherent of King Pepin, was a kinsman of William
the Pious, Duke of Auitaine, for according to the chonicle of Ademar de
Chabannes (ed., Chevanne, III, 21, p.140), Elbler Ranulf II, father of Ebles
Manzer, was his "consanguinus" and it has been suggested that Gerard was a
brother of William, Count of Auvergne, and that when the line of Auvergne
failed as Dukes of Aquitaine Ebles claimed the inherit the Dukedom.
However, the actual connection is not clear, but it seems probable that Gerard
was a near relative of the family of St. William, Count of Autun, Marquis of
Septimania, under Charlemagne [Auzier, in REVUE HISTORIQUE 173 (1924),
pp.91-102.]." - POITOU.TXT (Compuserve)
Gerhard I, Count of Auvergne, an Aquitaine magistrate - Royalty for Commoners,
Roderick W. Stuart, p. 118; Count of Auvergne - p. 233
OCCU Count of Limegos ...
SOUR www.rootsweb.com/gumby says ABT 815, Poitiers, Vienna, France ;
SOUR POITOU.TXT (Compuserve)
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 118 says at Battle of Fontiniy
HAWKINS.GED
QUAY 1
GERARD, COUNT OF LIMOGES
ORIGINS OF THE COUNTS OF POITOU
[EXCERPTED FROM: G.A. Moriarty's PLANTAGENET ANCESTRY; all material in double-
quotes is a direct quote from him.]
"POITOU: The origins of the Counts of Poitou have been considered by M. Leone
Auzier in his paper, "L'origine carolingienne des ducs feodaux d'Aquitaine et
des rois capetiens," in REVUE HISTORIQUE, vol. 173 (1934), p.91 et seq, and in
his L'AQUITAINE CAROLINGIENNE 776-987 (1937), p.461 et seq. He suggests that
the Counts of Poitou descended from Gerard, Count of Limoges, slain at
Fontenay, by his wife, who was a sister of Pepin I, the Carolingian King of
Aquitaine, and so a daughter of the Emperor Louis the Pious. Gerard was
certainly a brother-in-law of King Pepin (Auzier, L'AQUITAINE, p.130), but
Mabille held, without offering proof, that Ranulf I was the son of another
wife, [that?] Richard wavered in his views on this point, but the famous
French scholar, M. Ferdinand Lot, and M. Flack, as well as M. Auzier believe
that Ranulf I was a son of the sister of Pepin I, King of Aquitaine (Auzier,
L'AQUITAINE, p.149n64), and thus the Counts of Poitou had a Carolingian
descent. When Charloman [sic] called Gerard the "gens" of King Pepin, he used
the word instead of brother-in-law.
"Gerard,who was a faithful adherent of King Pepin, was a kinsman of William
the Pious, Duke of Auitaine, for according to the chonicle of Ademar de
Chabannes (ed., Chevanne, III, 21, p.140), Elbler Ranulf II, father of Ebles
Manzer, was his "consanguinus" and it has been suggested that Gerard was a
brother of William, Count of Auvergne, and that when the line of Auvergne
failed as Dukes of Aquitaine Ebles claimed the inherit the Dukedom.
However, the actual connection is not clear, but it seems probable that Gerard
was a near relative of the family of St. William, Count of Autun, Marquis of
Septimania, under Charlemagne [Auzier, in REVUE HISTORIQUE 173 (1924),
pp.91-102.]." - POITOU.TXT (Compuserve)
Gerhard I, Count of Auvergne, an Aquitaine magistrate - Royalty for Commoners,
Roderick W. Stuart, p. 118; Count of Auvergne - p. 233
GIVN Gerard I of
SURN Auvergne
NPFX Count
NSFX *[Spare.FTW]
[daveanthes.FTW]
OCCU Count of Limegos ...
SOUR www.rootsweb.com/gumby says ABT 815, Poitiers, Vienna, France ;
SOUR POITOU.TXT (Compuserve)
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 118 says at Battle of Fontiniy
HAWKINS.GED
QUAY 1
GERARD, COUNT OF LIMOGES
ORIGINS OF THE COUNTS OF POITOU
[EXCERPTED FROM: G.A. Moriarty's PLANTAGENET ANCESTRY; all material in double-
quotes is a direct quote from him.]
"POITOU: The origins of the Counts of Poitou have been considered by M. Leone
Auzier in his paper, "L'origine carolingienne des ducs feodaux d'Aquitaine et
des rois capetiens," in REVUE HISTORIQUE, vol. 173 (1934), p.91 et seq, and in
his L'AQUITAINE CAROLINGIENNE 776-987 (1937), p.461 et seq. He suggests that
the Counts of Poitou descended from Gerard, Count of Limoges, slain at
Fontenay, by his wife, who was a sister of Pepin I, the Carolingian King of
Aquitaine, and so a daughter of the Emperor Louis the Pious. Gerard was
certainly a brother-in-law of King Pepin (Auzier, L'AQUITAINE, p.130), but
Mabille held, without offering proof, that Ranulf I was the son of another
wife, [that?] Richard wavered in his views on this point, but the famous
French scholar, M. Ferdinand Lot, and M. Flack, as well as M. Auzier believe
that Ranulf I was a son of the sister of Pepin I, King of Aquitaine (Auzier,
L'AQUITAINE, p.149n64), and thus the Counts of Poitou had a Carolingian
descent. When Charloman [sic] called Gerard the "gens" of King Pepin, he used
the word instead of brother-in-law.
"Gerard,who was a faithful adherent of King Pepin, was a kinsman of William
the Pious, Duke of Auitaine, for according to the chonicle of Ademar de
Chabannes (ed., Chevanne, III, 21, p.140), Elbler Ranulf II, father of Ebles
Manzer, was his "consanguinus" and it has been suggested that Gerard was a
brother of William, Count of Auvergne, and that when the line of Auvergne
failed as Dukes of Aquitaine Ebles claimed the inherit the Dukedom.
However, the actual connection is not clear, but it seems probable that Gerard
was a near relative of the family of St. William, Count of Autun, Marquis of
Septimania, under Charlemagne [Auzier, in REVUE HISTORIQUE 173 (1924),
pp.91-102.]." - POITOU.TXT (Compuserve)
Gerhard I, Count of Auvergne, an Aquitaine magistrate - Royalty for Commoners,
Roderick W. Stuart, p. 118; Count of Auvergne - p. 233
OCCU Count of Limegos ...
SOUR www.rootsweb.com/gumby says ABT 815, Poitiers, Vienna, France ;
SOUR POITOU.TXT (Compuserve)
Royalty for Commoners, Roderick W. Stuart, p. 118 says at Battle of Fontiniy
HAWKINS.GED
QUAY 1
GERARD, COUNT OF LIMOGES
ORIGINS OF THE COUNTS OF POITOU
[EXCERPTED FROM: G.A. Moriarty's PLANTAGENET ANCESTRY; all material in double-
quotes is a direct quote from him.]
"POITOU: The origins of the Counts of Poitou have been considered by M. Leone
Auzier in his paper, "L'origine carolingienne des ducs feodaux d'Aquitaine et
des rois capetiens," in REVUE HISTORIQUE, vol. 173 (1934), p.91 et seq, and in
his L'AQUITAINE CAROLINGIENNE 776-987 (1937), p.461 et seq. He suggests that
the Counts of Poitou descended from Gerard, Count of Limoges, slain at
Fontenay, by his wife, who was a sister of Pepin I, the Carolingian King of
Aquitaine, and so a daughter of the Emperor Louis the Pious. Gerard was
certainly a brother-in-law of King Pepin (Auzier, L'AQUITAINE, p.130), but
Mabille held, without offering proof, that Ranulf I was the son of another
wife, [that?] Richard wavered in his views on this point, but the famous
French scholar, M. Ferdinand Lot, and M. Flack, as well as M. Auzier believe
that Ranulf I was a son of the sister of Pepin I, King of Aquitaine (Auzier,
L'AQUITAINE, p.149n64), and thus the Counts of Poitou had a Carolingian
descent. When Charloman [sic] called Gerard the "gens" of King Pepin, he used
the word instead of brother-in-law.
"Gerard,who was a faithful adherent of King Pepin, was a kinsman of William
the Pious, Duke of Auitaine, for according to the chonicle of Ademar de
Chabannes (ed., Chevanne, III, 21, p.140), Elbler Ranulf II, father of Ebles
Manzer, was his "consanguinus" and it has been suggested that Gerard was a
brother of William, Count of Auvergne, and that when the line of Auvergne
failed as Dukes of Aquitaine Ebles claimed the inherit the Dukedom.
However, the actual connection is not clear, but it seems probable that Gerard
was a near relative of the family of St. William, Count of Autun, Marquis of
Septimania, under Charlemagne [Auzier, in REVUE HISTORIQUE 173 (1924),
pp.91-102.]." - POITOU.TXT (Compuserve)
Gerhard I, Count of Auvergne, an Aquitaine magistrate - Royalty for Commoners,
Roderick W. Stuart, p. 118; Count of Auvergne - p. 233
GIVN Gerard I of
SURN Auvergne
NPFX Count
NSFX *