
- b.~ 1012 in , Flanders, Belgium, Netherlands d.01 Sep 1067 in , Lille, Nord, France
- b.~ 1032 in , Flanders, Belgium, Netherlands

- b.1009 in , Melun, Seine-et-Marne, France d.05 Jun 1063 in Monastere de l'O Messines, Flandre-Orientale, Belgium, Netherlands