- b.~ 1200 in Hide Hall,Sawbridgeworth,Bishop's Stortford,Hertfordshire, England
- b.~ 1230 in Hide Hall,Sawbridgeworth,Bishop's Stortford,Hertfordshire, England
- b.1180 in Sudeley Manor,Winchcomb,Gloucestershire,England
- b.1209 in Sudley Manor,Winhcomb,Gloucestershire,England