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The following are three separate postings to the soc.genealogy.medieval, which relate to Galiena:

#1
From: Dcrdcr4 (dcrdcr4@aol.com)
Subject: Gournay-Dammartin
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 1999/03/30

Can anyone place Galiena de Gournay, wife of Manasser de Dammartin in the Gournay family tree?   Manasser was living in 1171.   They had sons, Bartholomew and William, both of whom died before 1190.   Galiena gave property at Norton Mandeville, Essex c. 1170 to the Hospitallers.

#2
From: Douglas Richardson (royalancestry@msn.com)
Subject: Re: Dammartin
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2002-05-19 22:39:15 PST

One well known family that descends from the Dammartin family above is the Tyrrell family of Essex.  The connection comes through an early Tyrrell wife who was a Borgate heiress of Suffolk.  The Borgate family in turn descends from Galiena de Dammartin, an heiress of the Dammartin family above.  The Tyrrell family included the Borgate arms among their quarterings.

As for Galiena de Dammartin, my research indicates she also descends from the well known Gournay family, her paternal grandmother being a Galiena de Gournay.  Galiena de Gournay was a member of a cadet branch of the Gournay family, of Norfolk and co. Oxford.

#3
Douglas Richard, 2002-05-20:

Daniel Gurney (Record of the House of Gournay, pp. 286-289, 292-293, 776-777) alleges that Gerard de Gournay and his wife, Ediva, had a younger son, Walter de Gournay (living 1150), ancestor of the Gurnay family of Norfolk.   Such an individual existed but he had no association in the records with the senior branch of the Gournay family.  Rather, it appears that Walter was closely related to a Galiena de Gournay, born say 1120, living c. 1170, wife of Manasser de Dammartin (died 1178/9), of Mendlesham and Cotton, Suffolk, Norton Mandeville, Essex, etc.  Surviving records show that Manasser de Dammartin enfeoffed Walter de Gurnay with a ¼ knight's fee in Suffolk during the Civil War between King Stephen and Empress Maud.   In 1150, Walter de Gournay witnessed a charter to Missenden Abbey for Manasser and Galiene.  Charter evidence proves that Galiene was the granddaughter of an unplaced William de Gurnay, of Addington, co. Kent, whose gift to the see of Rochester she confirmed by her own undated charter.  Given these facts, it is doubtful that Walter de Gournay was the son of Gerard de Gournay as alleged [References: Hasted, 4 (1798): 544-545; W. A. Copinger, Manors of Suffolk, 3 (1909): 277-278; Lewis C. Loyd and Doris M. Stenton, eds., Sir Christopher Hatton's Book of Seals (1958), pp. 229-230, 239-240; VCH Essex, 4 (1956): 151-152; Genealogist, 15 (1965): 53-63 (article on Dammartin family) ; J. G. Jenkins, ed., Cartulary of Missenden Abbey, 1: 70-75; Michael Gervers, Cartulary of the Knights of St. John of Jerusalem in England (19__), pg. 216].