

- b.1024 in Macon, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France d.11 Nov 1087

- b.~ 1050 in Macon, Saone-et-Loire, Bourgogne, France d.1102 in Murdered at Askalon, France


- b.~ 1035 in Longwy, Duchy of Bar, Lorraine, France d.> 1088
- b.1088 in Vienne, Lyonnais, France d.1155