- b.0797 in Vermandois, Normandy, France d.17 Apr 0818 in Milan, Italy (blinded by Louis I)
- b.0818 in Vermandois, Normandy, France d.0848 in Milan, Italy
- b.0797 in Gellone, Savoy, France d.15 Jun 0835
- b.~ 0839 in Vermandois, Normandy, France d.~ 0893 in Senlis, Oise, Picardy, France