General Notes

Ingram de Say, feudal Lord of Clun, Salop.  [Burke's Peerage]

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[The Lordship of Clun in Shropshire belonged, temp. Stephen, to Ellis de Say, whose daughter and heir, Isabel, brought it to her husband, William FitzAlan, feudal Lord of Oswaldestre (ie. Oswestry) in that co., who d. abt 1210.  Their son and heir, William FitzAlan, Lord of Clun and Oswestry, dsp 1216, and was succeeded by his brother and heir, John FitzAlan, Lord of Cluny and Oswestry, who m. Isabel, sister (whose issue became coheirs) of Hugh d'Aubigny, Earl of Arundel.  This John FitzAlan d. 1240, and was succeeded by his son and heir, John FitzAlan, feudal Lord of Clun and Oswestry, to whom (jure maris) the Castle and Honour of Arundel were awarded, 27 Nov 1243, whereby, according to the admission of 1433, he became Earl of Arundel. . .]  [Complete Peerage, III:335 as corrected by XIV:194]

Note: It appears that his name was Ellis [CP XIV:194], Elias, or Helias, not Ingram or Ingelram as the original CP III:335 had it.  See notes under Isabel, the daughter.  Also there is some question as to whether he was the son [Eyton], brother [Keats-Rohan], or no relation at all [Sanders] to Henry de Say.

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NOTE: The above account by CP is wrong in its handling of the FitzAlan descendancy:

Isabel de Say's husband was William FitzAlan (d. 1160). Their son William FitzAlan died in 1210 and was succeeded by his son William, who died at Easter 1215, and whose brother and heir was John, as given above.  [Some Corrections & Additions to the Complete Peerage]