- b.0770 in Saxony, Germany d.0825 in Saxony, Germany
- b.~ 0786 in Saxony, Germany d.0843 in Saxony, Germany
- b.~ 0816 in Saxony, Germany d.0866
- b.0765 in Montfort-sur-Risle, Eure, Normandy, France
- b.0790 in Montfort-sur-Risle, Eure, Normandy, France