- b.1030 in Rethel, Ardennes, France d.Nov 1118
- b.1090 in Rethel, Ardennes, France d.1124
- b.~ 0983 in Montlhery, Seine-et-Oise, France
- b.1009 in Montlhery, Seine-et-Oise, France d.1095
- b.~ 1040 in Corbeil, Marne, France d.> 1097
- b.0975 in Ile de France, France
- b.1014